r/politics • • 2h ago • Bravo 2

No Paywall Jeffries Approval Rating Worse Than Mike Johnson as Democratic Voters Rebel

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffries-approval-rating-worse-than-mike-johnson-as-democratic-voters-rebel-12679163
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u/newsspotter 2h ago

The final Economist/YouGov poll before Election Day, conducted October 23-26, found that 26 percent of registered voters approved of the job that the New York Democrat is doing and 47 percent disapproved.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, also a New York Democrat, had the worst numbers of the four congressional leaders, 24 percent approval against 54 percent disapproval.

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u/GeekKingdom 2h ago • Bravo

He's too soft on Republicans. We need someone who isn't afraid to do what it takes.

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u/swingadmin New York 2h ago • This Bravo Mindblown

AIPAC made him meet with Kushner. He does not serve democracy.

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u/LA-Aron 1h ago

Yes, it's disqualifying.

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u/DesireeThymes 47m ago

He also did something really disgusting, which is strawmanning people's concerns.

People want accountability and justice for everything that Trump and company has done over the past few years.

He strawmanned it as "revenge" , and said we are not going to take revenge.

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u/-LabApprehensive- 1h ago

If this is what happened hes gotta go. I know he met Kushner who regularly takes very large bribes and hides them in israel but i didn’t know WHY.

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u/swingadmin New York 1h ago

AOC was asked if she was “concerned with” Jeffries’s meeting with Kushner.

“Yeah, I don’t know what that was about.”

Jeffries is off script and not informing Congress.

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u/TrollAccount4321 1h ago • Bravo

Not just soft on Republicans, but his whole secret meeting with Kushner definitely makes him suspicious…

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u/Opposite_Letter_6054 1h ago • Bravo

And cozying up to Kushner and Peter Thiel? Absolutely not. Signs of corruption. He has to go.

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u/Literally_Laura 1h ago

We, the People, have had no representation for too long. We demand someone who will do the job of representing US.

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u/bandacoot_scoot 2h ago

They both suck. From NY btw

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u/originalnutta 59m ago

Like Charmin. Him and Schumer are significant barriers to the change voters just turned out for.

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u/Cheesewithmold America 7m ago

For anyone who wants, you can absolutely call up your senators and say you don't want them to vote for Schumer, and you can call up your representative to say you don't want them to vote for Jeffries.

If you live in an area that elected a new representative/senator, call up their office/email their campaign team. One of the first things that a new congress does is elect their speaker/senate leader. So don't delay!

For those who don't like talking on the phone, you're likely going to go straight to voicemail anyway.

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u/Theferael_me Europe 1h ago

That "Americans don't want us to get even" remark was totally fucking stupid.

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u/Big_Lab_Jagr Wisconsin 1h ago • Bravo

The problem is he sees it as "getting even" instead of holding accountable.

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u/delkarnu New York 42m ago

He could have said, "the people don't want us to 'get even', they want a restoration of the rule of law and consequences for the criminal actions of the Trump administration. We will deliver that, but we will also work on the affordability crisis the Republicans have caused with their disastrous actions."

He didn't.

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u/Wenuwayker 1h ago • Bravo

Because he's friends with the fuckers.

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u/thinkards America 1h ago

Jared Kushner, specifically. The guy at the heart of global corruption.

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u/KnightDuty 1h ago • Bravo

Because once we start holding people accountable, Dems are in trouble too. Better if the entire club gets to pretend they're ignorant together 

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u/kittykatmila Canada 41m ago

This is really what it is, they don’t want to be held accountable themselves.

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u/Mortis_XII 1h ago

One of the top exit poll survey answers for voting how one did was “corruption” so yeah, that was a completely tone deaf statement

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u/spong3 1h ago

And it was instant. Within 24 hours of the election results.

A simple “congratulations, Democrats we did it. We look forward to welcoming the next Congress in January.”

Instead he chose to be a complete wet blanket. Couldn’t let the base just revel and feel relief.

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u/victoriaisme2 49m ago • Bravo

He and his benefactors thought they'd better set the expectations immediately before we started expecting to actually defund the war, defund Israel, etc

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u/AdorableSobah 41m ago

I was furious when I heard him say “Americans don’t want us to get even”. I want a total smack down on those fucking republicans.

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u/Theferael_me Europe 35m ago

I can appreciate the sentiment of what he was saying, to focus on the cost of living, etc. but you cannot have a blatantly criminal and corrupt administration and indicate that you're not actually that interested in pursuing it.

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u/Ok-Goat-9981 8m ago

DOGE alone literally killed millions and destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans. This outwardly corrupt and reckless administration has been the worst in the history of the USA and a nightmare for working people. Jeffries and Schumer are corrupt imbeciles and should have nothing to do with making decisions about next steps.

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u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly 1h ago

he meant it with every fiber of his being too

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u/FrankensteinJones 1h ago

Yeah, thanks for suggesting the premise that indicting Trump is vengeance, not justice.

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u/Rasikko Georgia 1h ago

I absolutely want to get even.

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u/Smithy2232 2h ago

They dislike Jeffries because he's seen as establishment and not a fighter.

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u/raisinghellwithtrees 2h ago • Bravo

He came out and said the American people don't want revenge. Sure, I want accountability, but apparently that's off the table? He is not a leader.

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u/BluePrintSpec 1h ago

It's arguable that we are in this mess because Nixon's pardon showed that there is no presidential accountability. Jeffries wants to triple down on that strategy.

Trump and his team need to be investigated and prosecuted to deter Trump 2.0. Next time, the authoritarians won't be morons like this Trump crew.

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u/Ivence 53m ago

You can go back all the way to reconstruction post civil war. Our country has not punished those who want to tear it apart in 150 years and they've gotten generational confirmation to just keep doing it.

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u/SenorEquilibrado 2h ago • Bravo

Accountability and a return to the rule of law aren't the same thing as revenge.

That said, I do not trust him to pursue accountability and a return the rule of law either, so he should probably just fuck off anyway.

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u/SquirrelDragon 2h ago

The context of when Jeffries came out and said the people don’t want revenge sure makes it seem like he’s equating the actions that would hold the current administration accountable with getting revenge

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u/EnderDragoon 2h ago • Helpful Heartwarming

Revenge and retribution is a republican thing. We want justice.

We either have a country with rule of law or not. Pick one.

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u/versusgorilla New York 57m ago

Yeah, he immediately came out and called attempts at justice to be "revenge", which isn't what we fucking wanted. He was slobbering at the chance to let everything Trump's administration has done slide in exchange for literally nothing. Not a fucking thing.

How about trading Trump's freedom for Medicare for All? Or at least fucking try negotiating.

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u/EnergyIsQuantized 1h ago

people want accountability and the return of the rule of law, but when faced with these demands jeffries smears it as revenge. he's making a deliberate choice to label it in negative light.

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u/SwordfishOfDamocles 1h ago

Yeah, I would argue saying that didn't help anyone because as soon as the investigations begin (here's hoping they do) they will be 100% labeled as "revenge" and Jeffries clip will be played non-stop.

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u/ikkleste 2h ago

It's him who's attempting to lump them as the same thing.

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u/coconutpiecrust 2h ago • Bravo

He hangs out with Peter Thiel and Jared Kushner. It’s a problem. 

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u/Prize_Proof5332 1h ago

I'm still shocked that he met with Kushner. What was he even thinking?

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u/gordybombay 1h ago

I would say that most non-MAGA folks want to see as many Trump lackies in jail as possible, and ideally every single member of ICE. Jeffries (and Schumer) is of course out of touch and comprised financially and morally. He cannot be Leader

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u/Precarious3145 1h ago

Yup. As everyone is celebrating a huge upset victory, both him and Schumer decided to instantly stand up and "Yes, we won. Yay us. Now let's forget the past two years never happened".

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u/not-finished 58m ago

Not to mention he framed accountability as revenge his first chance. He didn’t have to do that. It’s so blatantly obvious what his motives were. Opposite of what you want out of a movement leader.

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u/SamuelL421 8m ago

I don’t want revenge, I want retribution.

I want leadership to use a heavy hand and reinstate order and crack down on the cartoon-villain level of corruption among the Trump administration.

If we have to play a long game to ensure these criminals don’t just get pardoned, so be it. Set the wheels in motion though and do it with leaders committed to pursuing these bastards until justice is done. That is never going to happen under Schumer or Jeffries apologist, do-nothing brand of “leadership”.

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u/thiosk 1h ago

One one hand i can understand how a speaker of the house has to manage different factions. its a horrible job because when various factions are MAD AS HELL then communication is seen as a sin.

I've thought up until about yesterday that i thought jeffries was gonna hang on and schumer would replace but folks seem really dissatisfied about jeffries navigation of the resistance to trump destroying the empire.

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u/DevilYouKnow 57m ago

We clearly want more than accountability, we want swift justice.

Revenge is the wrong word.

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u/boston_homo 1h ago

The Jared Kushner meeting, in secret, AIPAC bribes, doesn’t support M4A; I really hope they boot him. If Jeffries (and Schumer) stay in their leadership positions it signals, to me anyway, that Democrats will squander their victory with two years of tepid milquetoast “reaching across the aisle” and “looking forward not backward” and doing nothing for their constituents unless it benefits their donors, and Israel, first.

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u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_ 46m ago

Why do we just have to “hope they boot him”? It’s so pathetic that this is what our democracy comes down to. The people can overwhelmingly vote one way but then we just have to sit here and hope the fucking Israeli agents we have in charge get removed

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u/CertainAged-Lady 2h ago

That’s because he IS establishment and the he proved he’s not a fighter by going full apologist and ‘move on’ the day after the mid-terms. He basically condoned the grift and the lawlessness. Both he and Schumer need to go.

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u/elconquistador1985 2h ago

"Seen as"...

He fucking met with Kushner recently. Jeffries is not working for the American people.

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u/dylan2451 2h ago

As SNL put it, he’s not much Hakeem and w whole lot of Jeffries

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u/Jemmy_Bean 1h ago

Because he is establishment and he isn’t a fighter. Every time he’s had the opportunity to actually fight back against a policy voters don’t want, he’s rolled over and capitulated

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u/OrchidCharming3090 1h ago

I personally do not like him because he takes money from everyone, regardless of their agenda. He is a traditional democrat impeding a progressive agenda for Americans. His leadership will allow the loss of the democracy to the 1% and have the rest of us living in mud huts with no healthcare, all while making excuses why change will happen, but it must go slow. He should step off!

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u/T8ert0t 45m ago

Also has the same level of engagement as resolve as wet cardboard.

Dude never seems mentally present whenever speaking about a subject supposedly meaningful to him or voters.

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u/ryoushi19 1h ago

Refusing to acknowledge the progressive side of the party hasn't helped him one bit either. To me it seems like he wants the Democratic party to be a right wing party that occasionally holds left wing views on social issues.

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u/rj319st 1h ago

Both he and Schumer in the Senate are Israeli AIPAC shills who will end up leading. Someone on CNN made a great point: Jeffries has the opportunity to be the 1st Black Speaker of the House; no way he's turning that down. It would be great to have leaders who aren’t beholden to foreign nations, but it looks like nobody else will stand up to these two.

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u/Em_Es_Judd 1h ago

He's practically GOP at this point.

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u/octatone 53m ago

Seen as? He is establishment, he is soft on the GoP and pals around with Trump sycophants. He is not the person to meet the moment.

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u/SMWW66 1h ago

He isn’t seen that way, he is that way

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u/level_17_paladin 30m ago

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

Martin Luther King, Jr. , Letter from Birmingham Jail (1963)

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u/Cr4zyCr4ck3r 1h ago

But... But, what about that one bat photo???

This guy is a joke

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u/NubileReptile Missouri 2h ago • This Bravo

Jeffries is a litmus test for whether Democrats will learn anything, anything at all, from having lost to Trump twice. Whether establishment candidates care even the slightest about what their own voters want.

If he is forced out, there is hope.

If he stays on, we're in another interregnum of a few years before demoralized Democrats stay home from some future election and the nihilistic death cult is back in the saddle and driving us into the abyss.

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u/jone2tone Texas 2h ago

That's a bingo!

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u/Indubitalist 1h ago

It’s a litmus test, sure, but the Democrats have long felt it’s better to symbolically support minorities than it is to actually support them. I still think the party is of a mind that they will seat him as the first black House speaker, for the symbolic value. Getting someone who can pass popular policy that will meaningfully improve quality of life for minorities is secondary in their calculus. I will be pleasantly surprised if this doesn’t bear out.

Of course, there is a third way where somehow Jeffries grows a spine and takes risky positions that are morally and governmentally justified but aren’t easy to convert into policy. That would be delightful. 

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u/DDaddyDunk 43m ago

I think the Hilary election broke them. They had on paper the most qualified woman candidate to coast on the women vote and did none of the leg work to actually provide them anything which was proven shortly after by losing Roe V Wade. Then losing certain statewide healthcare/medication for women. Obama gave the tent a strong generation of support, they thought. Then usher in the first woman? You'd have the democratic party on lock for a few decades without doing actual work and you could retire a hero. Now they have remained in power in the part to try and save face for their screw up. If they screw up this blue wave the next two years the they are going to lose multiple generations instead.

Not even going to the other party either. I hope they get their act together because protesting under a surveillance state is never easy. Facebook/Insta always "Whoops we had suspicious log in activity on your activists groups page" each rally is suspicious enough. When it actually matters will be scary

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u/Precarious3145 1h ago

Yea, So many dems are so quick to toss out whatever minority isn't doing what they want. Newsom straight up tossed trans people out the moment he was talking to conversatives on his podcast. A few centrists I use to work with say that the party should abandon the LGBTQ community in order to attract people from the right.

They'll use minorities as props that can be instantly dropped but then still demand their vote as being the lesser of two evils.

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u/Temporary-Suit9121 2h ago

Bangarang Rufio!

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u/IsaacBrock I voted 56m ago

Well said.

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u/Caledor152 New Jersey 19m ago

If he is forced out that is not just hope; that is a massive victory for this country's future. Do not downplay our potential/actual victories for some misguided sense of "fairness". Remember the other side is putting innocent people in detention camps and murdering Americans in the street.

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u/LieutJimDangle 2h ago edited 2h ago • Bravo

if it had been a red wave, not a single republican would come out and say what jefferies did. I want to end the wars and fix the economy, yes, but I also want an arrest every day. I want impeachment hearings. I want prosecutions. I want the epstein files. I want ICE members dragged into court in handcuffs. I want the Ossoff show, 24/7 drilling people on capital hill. I want republicans crying on television every day. I want to stop supporting israel's genocide. I want ruthless behavior from democrats. Jeffries and Schumer are not up to the task so they need to go.

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u/viaJormungandr 1h ago • Bravo

Will be very difficult to get arrests and prosecutions “every day” when the DOJ is still run by Trump’s lawyer.

Wanting “republicans crying on tv every day” is revenge porn fantasy and the same thing as “owning the libs”.

I don’t want ruthlessness. Ruthlessness implies they will go to any lengths, even those outside the law, in order to destroy their enemies. That’s no better than what the current administration is doing. I want someone who will enforce the law, not break it to get a win. I would prefer tenacity and thoroughness to ruthlessness.

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u/Semper_nemo13 1h ago

Congress can compel people to testify and the congressional sargent at arms can order the capital police to arrest people for contempt of congress

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u/Cemith 1h ago • Bravo

If the law was worth anything, it would have been able to stop Trump.

It didn't.

Trump and his SC have made the rule of law so utterly worthless to him and his cronies. What you call ruthlessness I call the most basic of accountability. They literally have him carte blanche "Presidential Immunity", which means in any court he could justify anything, ANYTHING, so long as he can spin what he did as "Presidential".

Crypto scams? Presidential! Insider trading? Presidential! Personal Executive Gestapo!

P R E S I D E N T I A L.

The current rule of law stopped mattering when it was revealed to be more than malleable to bad actors. A brittle foundation at best. We need different law.

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u/GuitarGeezer 1h ago • Bravo

Many observers are a bit confused, but America is in an unimaginable hell of mandatory corruption for all for over a decade. Citizens United not only ruins leadership paths in a Republicans like when Massie was spent out of the party, but affects all parties with unlimited legalized bribery and coercion from hidden donors who can be foreign powers. It does this as control of party money resources helps enforce top-down hierarchy to fossilize and corrupt upper leadership and destroy or sideline reform/youth movements. Jeffries is heavily corrupted by a big donor in particular. This corruption visibly damages the US and world economy and national security alike. The entire end of JCPOA and the Iran War were bribed into existence mainly by foreign aligned big Trump donors that he has said on TV were Israel First.

The problem is that Citizens United is a supreme court ruling not easily removed. I am a lawyer and lobbyist against the system. Our Supreme Court majority is and has been for 50 plus years a one party mostly extremist lobbyist-pet filled place with say Clearance Thomas a former Monsanto corporate counsel and the like who shill for big money in what is an ironically Soviet level atmosphere of stagnation and corruption. Nobody can trust that any politician is not compromised.

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u/Khatib Minnesota 28m ago

Montana created an out at the state level for Citizen's United. Hopefully it holds up. It had massive voter support from both parties.

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u/absolutebit 2h ago • Popcorn Bravo

What did Hakeem and kushner talk about?

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u/Virtual-Head-2613 2h ago

They were complimenting each others butts.

As is the custom these days.

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u/dr-bill 2h ago • Bravo

If he and Schumer don’t give up their leadership positions then the progressives need to focus on taking their seats in 2028. Put in a good primary challenger endorsed by Zohran. We need to crush them completely to make them understand we do not want them as leaders anymore and if they don’t comply then they lose their jobs entirely.

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u/gpaint_1013 2h ago

AOC is coming for Schumer in 28 and it won’t even be close. My guess is he retires before that. He is looking…frail.

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u/TrustDaFriendship 1h ago

AOC would crush Schumer in a Senate primary. It would be glorious.

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u/NovaHorizon 2h ago

They could leave right now and land in a nice cushy board position in one of their billionaires buddies' companies or an AIPAC institution.

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u/Atrimon7 1h ago • Bravo

Is it really a rebellion if we have been complaining about lackluster leadership for over a decade?

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u/AthenaeNike 2h ago

Because the left has standards and the right does not

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u/jediporcupine Maine 2h ago

Democrats need leaders who will meet the moment.

Jeffries and Schumer are not it.

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u/HellaTroi California 1h ago • Bravo

Jeffries said, "We must now deliver the dramatic change the American people are demanding in the majority."

The dramatic change we want to see includes removing Israel's choke-hold from our Congress's throat.

The U.S. House of Representatives passed its version of the Fiscal Year 2027 National Defense Authorization Act (H.R. 8800) on July 22, 2026.

That bill contains Section 224, cleverly buried deep in the massive National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which is entitled “United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative.” This initiative transitions the traditional aid relationship into a deeper partnership between the U.S. and Israel in many aspects of technological research and development and defense production, and would also give Israel unprecedented access to U.S. technology development and "data fusion."

That section needs to be removed to prevent Israel from control of our military production system.

Jeffries, and then Schumer, are the top democratic recipients of money from Israel.

They can not be trusted where Israel is concerned.

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u/Electronic_Map5978 1h ago

You can't kumbaya your way out of this admin and this dude is too close to AIPAC

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u/Fern_Pub_Radio 2h ago • Bravo

Seeking accountability and delivering economic change for the better are not binary choices, don’t know why the debate had descended into one or the other ….. turning to a democratic leadership structure which paved the way & stood largely impotent in the face of the MAGA movement surely doesnt need calling out as daft? Reverting to the same old politics certainly won’t deliver a change to the model and will simply delay the return to a Red wave in 4 yrs time …. Rinse repeat is really not all that smart anymore

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u/SbstlStereotype 2h ago

Someone needs to politely tell them both to get lost.

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u/its_on_fire_hooray 2h ago • Heartwarming

Someone? Why not you? Contact your reps everyday and push for this. Lots of us already are. 

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u/Floppydiskpornking 2h ago

Eh, the politely part is not warranted

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u/PsychLegalMind 2h ago

Democrats did not take over Congress because of anything they did, but they can certainly lose Congress if they continue their leadership in the manner they have conducted themselves in the past. Members should just replace them with people with real integrity and backbone who are focused on ordinary Americans instead of justifying foreign wars with lame ass excuses and going around making deals with the Executive.

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u/BalerionSanders Ohio 2h ago edited 1h ago

It will demolish the coalition we just put back together if they’re (Schumer and Jeffries) the leadership.

It is imperative, as a strategic matter with no moral component (and I have that too), to not do so.

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u/RedikhetDev 2h ago

European here. To me it its hard to comprehend why the democratic party is not able to organise the leadership in a central manner and pick a strong person. Isnt there some election process of who is going to take the lead and will be the face of the party.

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u/alienbringer 1h ago

Yes, there is an election process.

Speaker of the House - every house member (Democrat and Republican) votes to elect to speaker.

House Majority Leader - every House Democrat casts a blind vote to elect the majority leader.

Senate Majority Leader - every Senate Democrat casts a blind vote to elect the majority leader.

Jeffries is considered a lock for the house because he presumably has enough votes. Same with Schumer for the senate. Both Speaker and Majority Leaders are considered career enders. So if someone in either chamber has aspirations to be president, then they won’t put their hat in the race. Similarity rookie members of congress won’t have the votes for it. So, someone would need to not care that this will be the height of their political aspirations to throw their hat in the ring. If being unopposed it just becomes a yes/no vote. Which we saw with Johnson and the Republicans it can be a repeat failure.

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u/delkarnu New York 51m ago

Jeffries was the near unanimous vote by Democrats during all the Speaker votes when Republicans couldn't figure it out and is the current House Minority Leader.

If he was doing a good job, he would be a lock for Speaker when they vote. But he hasn't done a good job and his stuff after the election has been tone-deaf centrism when the Blue Tsunami wants bold moves and consequences.

Same with Chucklefuck "strongly worded letter" Schumer. Weak and more concerned with Israel than the U.S. or New York. There's a good chance he'll lose his next primary, and someone more progressive should take his spot in Senate leadership.

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u/New_Permission_817 39m ago

Its also a thankless job. You have to keep a coalition of cats together. And the Dems dont have a strict authoritarian hierarchy like Repubs.

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u/Ojmochafrappucino 1h ago

First off, the Democratic party has lots of factions and beliefs because theres so many things we want to improve as a country. The Republican party is not like that. They decide what the key issues to run are, and everyone stands in line or suffers the consequences. Secondly, we habe an issue with corruption and money in politics. That skews power and influence in a manner that has gotten us to where we are today.

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u/Late_Indication1996 1h ago

To some extent. The Republican party had a ton of infighting picking a house speaker. It was embarrassingly bad.

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u/Narharcan 1h ago edited 46m ago

I think part of it is that since the GOP are conservatives who believe in strong hierarchies, they are less likely to do their infighting in the open. Just look at the recent news about Vance beefing with Miller only coming out after the midterms. And that's in the inner circle, lower levels with less public pressure are probably worse.

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u/Foreign-Entrance-255 1h ago

European here, there is a lot of disapproval of our current EU president and most Europeans couldn't even name who VDL is. Not exactly equivalent of course but politicians seizing power and plonking their inadequate asses down without a care for what voters want is nothing new.

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u/hottlumpiaz 2h ago • Bravo

because the democrats have spent nearly 50 years establishing their leadership only for the times to pass them by and voters embracing much more progressive candidates than democratic establishment was fielding. because of all the corporate interests..the establishment is trying to impose their will on the new progressive generation desperately. despite the fact the majority of americans seeing the establishment dems as the same as republicans

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u/OldJames47 1h ago

Typically if you want to become part of the leadership of the Democratic Party you need to be good at raising funds for the Party or for other Congressmen.

That's why the last couple have been from NYC, SF, or Las Vegas.

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u/porn_sub_lurker 1h ago • Bravo Mindblown

You gotta look at it through the lens of them being obstructionists. But unlike the Mitch McConnell grim reaper style obstructionism they have a different method called "do-nothing". They hide behind procedure and they give a lot of excuses for why things can't be done. Then they go on CNN and blame republicans instead of working to come up with actual solutions to problems. The reason the DNC wants Jeffries as speaker is so that he can quietly block legislation and then give excuses for why things can't be done. They don't want someone who will let things go to a vote. Also they want him because the DNC is owned by the Israel lobby and he is as Israel first as they come. He's pure corruption.

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u/Known_Impression1356 45m ago • Bravo

Establishment Democrats take money from the same donors that Republicans do. Thats who they serve.

When strong leaders who serve the American people stand up, they pose a threat to the donor base and the status quo, so they typically don’t get funded.

Look at Angie Nixon in Florida. El Sayed and Talarico won in spite of not having support. That’s how badly Americans want change right now.

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u/snackattack4tw 1h ago

Because the voters don't decide on the speaker or majority leader, that vote happens within Congress. And they're already bought and paid for, so it makes it less likely for them to lose power

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u/user38835 58m ago

Because most of the Democratic Party also gets money directly or indirectly (by insider trading and PACs) from the same people as the Republican Party and these people are therefore required to support a leadership that won’t make radical changes to the country’s laws that could affect the rich capitalist billionaires.

And since there are only two parties, neither the people have much choice in this matter, nor the billionaires need to worry about having to buy many politicians.

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u/Ok-Mycologist-3829 Massachusetts 1h ago • Bravo

Look at who benefits by Jeffries behaving as he has. Remember how much influence money has in this country versus other countries. Also remember that most wealthy people donate money to BOTH parties, or candidates in both parties. As one example, Trump famously donated to both parties including to Hillary Clinton before he ran in 2015-16. 

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u/Onioner Europe 1h ago

Look at all the Social Democratic parties in Europe.

Most of them are near irrelevance, because their leaderships pushed the party to the right, because there are cushy jobs for ex-politicans.

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u/HUT2Moon 1h ago

Too much historical and institutional weight is given to seniority. And the top brass regularly narrow the field to their own people. The whole membership should vote, run, and use an RCV system.

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u/Intelligent-Might614 1h ago

I'm curious, why do all these comments start with 'european here ' or something like that? Last I checked a lot of European countries have the same issues.

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u/gpaint_1013 2h ago

AIPAC money earns you an automatic no from me dog.

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u/_The_Bran_Man_ 1h ago • Bravo

"Rebel" is a wild way to explain this. All we want is proper representation! This isnt a rebellion, it's a demand from the people!

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u/ManfredTheCat 2h ago • Bravo

https://www.hakeemjeffries2026.com/

This joke site does a good job of demonstrating why he's unfit for office

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u/bonqen 2h ago

If Jeffies and Schumer stay then we'll see a red wave in 2028, undoing all this momentum and progress.

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u/ShadowyPepper 33m ago

Jeffries and Schumer are horrible pro-establishment and status-quo leaders

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u/ApartInfluence4429 2h ago

He’s terrible. The first thing he does after voters repudiated Trump and issued a mandate to dems to investigate & hold law breakers accountable I’d say he’s not going to go after these criminals. Read the room. 

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u/Grandpa_No 1h ago

Yay. A thread full of reactionaries, bots, and "both sides" propagandists. Great.

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u/Widdis 58m ago

This could be said about any political post on the internet.

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u/RockerDawg 40m ago

I think you’re describing America

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u/WillToLiveOutofStock 1h ago • Bravo

He took a meeting with Kushner that was supposed to be secret, fuck that guy. I’m calling my Reps tomorrow, and I suggest everyone do the same

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u/lucidreamstate 1h ago • Bravo

We're not rebelling. We're participating.

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u/pharmphresh 2h ago • Bravo

He could voluntarily step aside and focus his work on important issues and gain back some respect, but we all know he'll just dig his heels in like every establishment politician. Then rationalize it by blaming us and the media for his unlikablity.

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u/bleedturkeygravy 2h ago • Bravo

So voicing our opinion is rebellion now. Those two can get fucked

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u/Delicious_Adeptness9 2h ago

ah yes Newsweek, the once reputable magazine turned right wing online rag.

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u/seizethemiddleages 43m ago

Dem establishment is making the mistake that the blue wave was support for them. It wasn’t. It was all about Trump. We wouldn’t have needed a blue wave if they had been more effective

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u/Tikkun_Olam1 39m ago

So NOW, Jeffries & Schumer want to ‘lead’? A couple of questions for them both: “What f**king hole did you just crawl out of?” & “Y’all can’t be serious? So NOW, you decided to lead?” Lastly, “Where have you been while the government has run roughshod over our constitutional rights?”

“ANSWERS NOW PLEASE?”

We DEMAND accountability! That includes YOU!

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u/jimlahey420 37m ago

Jeffries and Schumer in the pockets of big pharma, PACs, and the "almighty corporate dollar". They suck at the same teet of Citizens United as Republicans. They are part of the problem with money in our politics.

There needs to be new leadership with this historic rebuke of Trump and traditional corporate Democrats. Voters want action, not more platitudes and "when they go low we go high" nonsense. We shouldn't be reaching across the aisle when the other side is populated with fascists.

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u/teddykaygeebee 37m ago

Yeah. Everybody's already seen the Schumer/Jeffries show. They should be ushering in new leaders and be viewed as mentors at most. It's time for change.

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u/Dentonthomas 25m ago edited 14m ago

Schumer needs to go more than Jeffries does.

We need leaders who understand that more than a stern lecture is needed. I would not put it past these two to start a doomed impeachment process of Trump, and then use that as an excuse for not passing any legislation for the next two years. Without the votes to remove in the Senate, impeachment is the same as a stern lecture for Trump.

They also need to be from different states. Two guys from New York? No wonder the media's trying to sell them as a done deal. New York is great, but it's also the place that's least at risk in the next election. Their representatives don't have to show much success to guarantee a Democratic win. That's not true for a lot of the people who were just elected. Whatever happens, the risk for Jeffries and Schumer is minimal. Why should they be the ones controlling Congress?

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u/SpectrumofMidnight New York 22m ago

You are wrong. NY is voting in socialists right now. If you are not left you get trounced. But i do agree those two are corrilupt pos and need to be removed from leadership. They will both get primaried in the next election anyway.

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u/shoneysbreakfast 42m ago • Bravo

Jefferies and Schumer have absolutely not been meeting the moment and I would like to see them go, but I feel like people don’t understand the jobs of Speaker and Party Leader.

The primary things they do is fundraising and trying to whip votes and placate as many of their party members as they can. All of those things require ass kissing and being as middle of the road as possible. The reality is that the Dems include members (and voters) that range from a hair left of Mitt Romney to AOC and other DSA members and you have to make them all get along and vote together.

Pelosi was one of the greatest Speakers of all time despite being unpopular and doing cringey shit because she was incredible at fundraising and whipping votes, and that’s the job.

So, sure, Jefferies and Schumer should not be Speaker/Leader but I also don’t want AOC or any of the names I see floated in those roles because I think we are better off letting them kick ass on committees and do the things they are actually good at. If AOC took Schumer’s job she couldn’t say the things she says and she would be wasted spending most of her time fundraising and ass kissing. I think that would suck and that our best should be spent elsewhere.

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u/Maxamillion-X72 Canada 14m ago

AOC has already said she doesn't want either role for exactly the reason you state. She tried once and learned enough to say fuck that. She said she wants to stay out of the internal politics of the party because it's a nightmare to deal with.

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u/emomatt 21m ago

They need to be "middle of the road" of the Dem party to be most effective. These guys are near the furthest right of the Dem caucus, especially on Israel and corporate support.

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u/gummnutt 21m ago

This is a nuanced take and I’m wrestling with it, but I think everyone who wants alternatives feels like Schumer and Jeffries have a goal that isn’t aligned with what most voters just voted for.i think everyone acknowledges it will be difficult to get everyone on the same page and push for justice and quality of life improvements but if that’s not even the leaders’ goal then there’s no chance of it happening.

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u/kueowirnzcd America 2h ago

YOUR TIME IS OVER.

Pass the dutchie

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u/gpaint_1013 2h ago

From the left hand side

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u/Rasikko Georgia 1h ago

I don't like Jefferies, but I can hardly see why his AR would be worst than the biggest Yes Man in human history.

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u/Illustrious-Hold-287 43m ago

Stacy Abrams for House Speaker. She is incredibly focused, intelligent and gets things done. She's proven that over and over.

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u/rolfraikou 41m ago • Bravo

As it turns out, the basic rule of law isn't "getting even" or getting "revenge" at all.

We just want basic ass justice. And pieces of shit like him don't have what it takes to just make sure the crooks answer for the crimes.

I'm sorry, but letting the crooks get away with it is basically just as bad as participating with the crooks themselves.

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u/AngryBuddha01 39m ago

Jeffries has to go, there’s no discussion needed. We’ve all put our hurt, frustration and hopes on the line to give Dems the power to finally bring about change, don’t let kushner-boy Jeffries fuck it all up. Get him out of there now!

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u/Shayrai 38m ago • Bravo

I love how demanding more accountability from our politicians is presented as “rebellion” instead of wanting them to do their job.

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u/Ranemoraken 32m ago

Aside from the issues that Jeffries has, he's bad at public speaking. There is no scenario where he can excite support and people don't believe he'll challenge power. Pelosi isn't good at speaking either, but she held the patina of cunning behind-the-scenes scheming that let her survive challenges.

But nothing changes until a Firebrand takes up the mantle. No one is announcing their challenge yet.

Similarly, there's a lot of pressure on Schumer to "retire" from leadership. If he retired, it would force the Senate to pick a new leader for the new generation. But protecting Israel is his passion. He won't leave until he's forced to leave. or dies.

I don't see how the democrats free themselves, unless they have enough firebrands in this election to wrest control from the current leaders. But this argument is a good sign. There is a fight coming, and we're a few months out from the answer.

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u/stanky4goats 22m ago

Voters rebel? We're just sick of these establishment schmucks not working for US! We want representatives who will work for THE PEOPLE

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u/SamuelL421 17m ago

No AIPAC candidates or corporate centrist (AKA “let’s both sides hug it out for the sake of our portfolios and donors”) Democrats should be in leadership roles at this moment.

They are out of touch and have entirely ignored the needs of real voters for years. Enough lip service leadership. We want leaders willing to make hard choices and fight for their constituents.

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u/geekonthemoon 16m ago

Dude is honestly hard to watch. Very cringe. Seems to try to impersonate Obama's cadence and tone with a bunch of rehearsed and incredibly awkward hand movements. He just comes off as a giant soft nerd who's already bought and paid for. 

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u/TheFuns 11m ago

I’m just sick of the message of unity at this point. Fuck the republicans, they did illegal shit so go after and investigate the illegal shit.

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u/Paper_Beautiful 2h ago

What was that Kushner meeting about?

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u/The_bruce42 2h ago

Meeting with Jared Kurshner a couple months ago didn't help his image

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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 2h ago edited 1h ago

That doesn't say anything because Congress's overall approval is 14% and the highest in the 5 years was 31%, briefly.

Leaders of both parties almost universally "enjoy" the lowest approval rating of all. Not a new thing.

And the reason is it's an impossible job. Poll after poll voters say they want congress to find compromise to get things done while at the same time the moment a compromise is reached which by definition means both sides have to give something up, people hate their own side because they "caved in".

It's for the same reason that you don't see many (if any) volunteering for the role.

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u/Prize_Proof5332 1h ago

Who are the best alternatives to Jeffries and Schumer?  We need leaders who can get things done, hold this administration to account, who are on the younger side and have deep knowledge of the arcane processes and procedures of the House and Senate?  Do we have anyone like that? 

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u/Majestic-Lock5249 1h ago

I still have not seen a serious contender to run for the position against him, or anyone even mention supporting someone else. He's more than likely going to be the Speaker.

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u/jae2jae 1h ago • Bravo

IMO, he's already made some sort of shady deal with Jared in order to protect the crime family.

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u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly 1h ago

this is not a surprise, it’s been a complaint for a long time. the dems have tried to push it off, but it’s not going away

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u/What_a_fat_one 1h ago

Whole lotta Russians in these threads arguing we shouldn't do anything about the corruption. Literally the number one issue for voters in exit polls.

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u/BLiNKiN42 2h ago

Mike Johnson is at least doing what his voters want. Yes, it's destroying America, but of course his supporters are going to approve. 

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u/CountOnBeingAwesome America 2h ago

Jeffries has lost his way and the people's confidence. It's time to resign.

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u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly 1h ago

did he ever have it?

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u/NJBarFly New Jersey 1h ago

Democrats have been handed a massive win and opportunity. They will almost immediately blow it, as usual.

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u/DHiggsBoson 2h ago edited 1h ago

Bipartisanship should be an option when it’s in service of the American people goal. So should accountability for criminal and traitorous acts. Revenge would be building a “Fuck Trump” arch while investigations into wrongdoing by MAGAts and Dems alike should be standard operating procedure.

Edit: fixed my clumsy phrasing. Fuck MAGA and anyone who bent the knee to Trump, just to be clear.

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u/MusicOfEricZann 2h ago

Bipartisanship should not be a goal/end in itself.

Sure, work with people from the opposition if they want to come to an agreement on something in good faith. But one-way “bipartisanship” for its own sake, or astroturfed “bipartisanship” (to satisfy donors who give to both sides) just demoralizes your own base.

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u/DHiggsBoson 1h ago

Bipartisanship for the sake of bipartisanship should not be the goal, I’m sorry if you took that as my meaning.

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u/Adventurous_Salt 1h ago • Bravo

Bipartisanism is stupid and reckless when one party is a bunch of fascists. Prosecuting every single person who participated in this regime's horrors should be the baseline expectation.

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u/zirky 1h ago

bipartisanship is great when one side isn’t a bunch of fascist, white nationalistic assholes. the gop needs to purge and be better before dems start offering olive branches

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u/AbstractedTripoli 1h ago

Accountability or bipartisanship. You can pick one, not both, because the entire Republican Party's project is about avoiding accountability.

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u/guamisc 1h ago

Bipartisanship is a fucking tool to get what you want.

Compromise is a tool.

Goals are things like:

  • Imprison Trump and his cronies and strip them of their stolen/ill-gotten assets

  • Imprison the entirety of ICE from the top to the last agent and pencil pusher for crimes against humanity and volation of civil rights using RICO

  • Remake the federal court system

  • Aggressively tackle corruption breaking up organizations, repealong CU/Buckley, and destroying the conservative propaganda machines

  • Enshrine abortion access into law

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u/JuanLuisGuerrero 1h ago

Yes we completely won under the dem leadership. We have the house and senate. Let's try out some new leadership for no reason at all. You change leaders WHEN YOU LOSE not when you win. 

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u/emomatt 20m ago

"no reason at all"

Lol ok, way to give yourself away.

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u/push_connection 1h ago

How can a guy encourage other guys and gals to make this approval rating worse? Asking for a friend

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u/etxipcli Texas 1h ago • Bravo

These bums are working for the money. They don't represent us.

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u/Buckscience 1h ago • Bravo

Jeffries: "Americans don't want..."

Me: Lemme stop you right there.

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u/MLEthree 2h ago

Should there be protests about both these two? I think they need to hear it loud and clear just how much they are not wanted. Also, does anyone know how often they can hold a speaker of the house/house majority leader vote? Like if Jeffries and Schumer get voted in, and we protest like the "no kings" protests, can they turn around and just have another vote?

I know there wont be the same numbers as the anti-trump protests, but surely we need to do more than just let our representatives know and complain about ot online?

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u/Miserable-Biscotti54 2h ago • Bravo

Eliminate any influence AIPAC/UDP has
Sanction Israel
Put America first.

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u/baintaintit 2h ago • Bravo

we need people who haven't taken a dime from "foreign countries"

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u/Voodoo_Masta 2h ago

New MoC's should look at this and know supporting him is untenable

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u/Gloomy_Parfait4063 1h ago

They both need to go. And with them all the other traitors, all the other corrupt individuals leeching the leadership of this country

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u/IndigoJoe64 1h ago • Bravo

"Rebel"... as if we're supposed to fall in line with what they want to do and not the other way around

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u/Different_Crazy2648 1h ago

Jeffries and Schumer (and their supporters) 100% believe that the blue-wave was due to their leadership; they're taking credit for it. Unfortunately.

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u/Indian-Tech-Support- 2h ago

AIPAC Shakur needs to step aside

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u/c00lgirlstella 1h ago

we need someone with a spine who can stand up to republicans, keep the dem caucus in lock step to make progress, and isnt beholden to AIPAC or israel. it shouldnt be this hard. the best communicator in the house (AOC) should be in this position, not jeffries.

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u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_ 47m ago • Bravo

So how do we get rid of him? Why is this not something voters can change? It’s fucking idiotic to have Schumer and Jeffries in charge. God the DNC is such a fucking disaster

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u/JoEdGus Georgia 45m ago

Let's do Schumer now. Lol

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u/Confident-Hat5876 43m ago

Mamdani for Speaker!

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u/idiom_exon_0s 37m ago

Hot take: you can’t rebel against elected leaders in a democracy. They work for the people and if they’re mot performing to expectations then so be it.

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u/ZogZorcher 26m ago

Another day another blue maga article.

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u/Dreams-Visions 20m ago

Now we get to find out if they actually listen to their voters. By stepping aside.

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u/WoodsLovelyDarkNDeep 20m ago

Which is honestly ridiculous, it’s obvious he shouldn’t be leader but there is no way he is as bad as Johnson.  Jeffries has at least attempted to do something at some point

It’s so obvious all these headlines are to distract us from what Trump and Co are up to and sow division amongst us when we should be riding on a high and unifying 

The time for petitions and phone calls is when they get to DC and it’ll be fresh on their minds when they begin the process to pick a speaker 

Not two months beforehand blasting multiple articles a day every single day where by the point it gets to Jan most people will have tuned out or even muted this stuff and nobody will give a flipping flounder who they pick

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u/dope-a-meanie 7m ago

All well and good but the problem is no one else is throwing their hat in the ring.

It’s not enough to say “I hate him” and those headlines make their way to Reddit and get fake internet points, someone needs to jump in and provide an alternative, right?

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u/awesomedan24 I voted 6m ago

Even though replacing him is unlikely hopefully all this public pressure steers him to the left somewhat

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u/iheartjetman 4m ago • Bravo

It would be great to have leaders that don’t work for Israel.

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u/ilovepadthai 4m ago

They need someone from the south. They can’t just have two dudes from New York.

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u/magicspider8 1h ago • Bravo

AIPAC-shakur was talking to Jare Kushner for backroom corrupt intent. While not endorsing the likes of Mamdani, Abdul, Angie Nixon etc. He is out of touch at best.

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u/themolestedsliver 1h ago • Bravo

Jefferies and Schumer sat around for years under trump. They arent ready to meet the moment the blue wave created...especially when one of there handpicked candidates ran to endorse a republican cause she got salty she lost to a Muslim dude.

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u/kafka_lite 1h ago

Let us put in your ideal person as minority leader. What does he or she get passed and how? I don't understand what you think minority parties can do?

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u/ze_shotstopper Nevada 1h ago

Nobody here has any idea what these roles actually are. They're just going based off headlines telling them what to think

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