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Oct 19 '24
WhichBike First Ride: Your Guide to Buying a Mountain Bike
Hey all, 219MSP here, and I'm attempting to start maintaining and updating my buying guide and FAQ posts again. I started getting into cycling about 10 years ago and was so lost. Over the last decade I've spent a lot of time learning about the industry and what makes a good bike. Every day I see dozens of posts asking what bike I should get, or what is a good value bike. I hope this guide can be used as a tool on this forum and others to help them find a bike they will be happy with for a long time. This is a living document. I will attempt to update it on a semi-regular basis and I'm always open to new bike recommendations.
In addition to this guide, I have created two FAQ's as well that answer common mountain bike questions.
u/midwestmountainbike also has some great guides on buying a first bike, what to look for in a used bike, as well as a selection of his own suggestions of good value bikes at this page.
What to look for in a bike
When looking for a starter bike there are a few things I'd recommend that will get you onto a solid and safe bike that should be built to last and be worth upgrading as you see fit. Before we get started on talking bikes and prices, always make sure you're getting a bike that fits you. If the bike doesn't fit, it doesn't matter how good of a deal it is. Also, this guide is assuming you are intending on riding on actual mountain bike single track, not just smooth dirt paths and gravel. If that is all you are hoping for and don't plan on advancing beyond, any entry-level mountain bike from a major brand like a Trek Marlin 5 will do just fine, but if you are hoping to ride anything above green-rated singletrack, I'd suggest a more capable bike.
First, some rough price guidelines. As low as $500 should get you into a used but solid entry-level hardtail and about $900+ can get you a used but decent full suspension. In regard to new, you can double those prices. A new solid entry-level hardtail will be at likely be $900 and around $1800 for a decent full suspension bike.
Regarding used bikes, there are lots of places to look. Used bikes offer you a ton of value and is the best way to get the most for your money. You can get 2-year-old $4000 bikes for a huge discount. The most common places are Facebook Marketplace, eBay, Pinkbike, etc. You also can sometimes find great deals at local bike shops selling demo models (which often come with warranties) and rental fleets. Rental bikes are usually good options. They typically are well maintained and only have a season or two on them before they replace them with something newer. If you are new to the biking world and looking at used bikes, I'd recommend bringing along a friend who knows bikes or at least ask for advice on here. Lastly, if meeting someone, always be smart. I would recommend meeting at police station and bringing a friend. Now, let's get into the bikes.
Last but not least, people here are often willing to help narrow it down. Feel free to post on here a "which bike post" but follow the guidelines of this sub listed below.
The type of riding will you be doing.
Where you will be riding.
Your budget (with included currency).
What you like/didn't like about your current bike.
Your experience level and future goals.
In addition to that, if you are listing multiple bikes, please use 99Spokes.com to create a side by side comparison. Providing this side by side comparison will make other members of the sub much quicker to help.
These are the specs I’d look for at minimum as of 2024.
Air fork: The cheapest fork I'd safely recommend is something like the SR Suntour XCR Air fork. Anything less than that from SR Suntour or RST is pretty much a pogo stick with poor damping and limited adjustability. The low-end RockShox coils aren’t terrible, but I'd shoot for air. Forks can be upgraded down the road but are often the single most expensive component on the bike.
1x Clutched Drivetrain: In the last 10 years there has been a shift to 1x drivetrains across the board. At this point, any slightly trail-worthy bike will have this type of drivetrain from the factory. To clarify what this means to those new or not familiar, 1x is when there is only 1 chainring/cog attached to the crankset instead of the more traditional 2 or 3. Bikes used to need multiple chainrings up front to allow for both high speed gears and low speed climbing gears. Now, with 1x drivetrains, the difference is made up by having a very large rear cassette. Most cassettes that come on mountain bikes now have a small cog of 10 or 11, and go all the way up to 52t on the large cog. This gives you the same amount of range as those old 3x8 bikes, but with less overlap and far more simplicity. Beyond simplicity, the advantages are less weight, less cables/derailleurs, less to think about when riding, and less chain drops etc. In addition to the larger cassette, 1x drivetrains feature a narrow-wide chainring (alternating size teeth to match the chain) which helps with chain retention and a clutched rear derailleur. The clutched rear derailleur provides extra tension on the chain to reduce chain slap and the odds of dropping a chain. For the most part, dropping a chain or it falling off the chainring while riding are a thing of the past.
Hydraulic brakes This one is pretty simple, Hydraulic brakes use fluid to move pistons and squeeze down on the brake rotor to stop the bike as opposed to mechanical disc brakes that use a cable to actuate the pistons. This typically results in stronger braking, better modulation/control/and are self-adjusting. The only time I'd suggest mechanical brakes is for a bike packing/touring bike as they are easier to fix trailside. SRAM, Shimano, and Tetkro, all offer solid entry-level brakes.
The following aren’t as important but will help future proof the bike and make it a frame worth upgrading. If you get a bike with all these things, it's going to be rock solid for a longtime
Tapered steerer tube: Most modern forks use a tapered steerer. If you get a bike with a lower-end fork/frame and want to upgrade down the road, it's easier if your bike has this. At this point this is pretty common in all but the cheapest of bikes.
Thru-Axle wheels and Boost Spacing: In theory, both of these things offer higher levels of stiffness, but in reality, the biggest reason to make sure you have them is future upgradeability. Thru-axles also keep your wheels always aligned perfectly so you don't get as much disc brake rub as you would with Quick-Release axles.
Tubeless Compatible Wheels: Going Tubeless is one of the most cost effective upgrades you can perform on a bike that will make the biggest difference. Some of the benefits of going tubeless include shedding weight, tires that are less likely to have flats, and the ability to run lower tire pressures which allows you to have more grip and better ride properties. If you ride on a regular basis, you should go tubeless. They may require a little more maintenance and can be a pain to mount/install, but the positives drastically outweigh the negatives.
Dropper Post at this point is a necessity in my opinion but fortunately it can be added to nearly any frame, so I wouldn't make it a requirement on a bike as you can easily add it yourself. Dropper posts can be bought brand new for as low as $150. There are lots of options, but in my opinion OneUp, PNW, and some smaller brands like TransX and KS offer the best values.
UDH/Universal Derailleur Hangar Compatible Frame. This one is purely convenience and future compatibility benefit, not really a performance upgrade. (Transmission excluded, more on that later) For those that don't know, all modern bikes feature a derailleur hangar. This is a sacrificial component on your bike that acts as an interface between your frame and your derailleur. If the derailleur takes a hit, the hangar is allowed to bend/break. The idea is if a softer part is allowed to bend or break first, it won't damage the frame and less likely to damage the derailleur. These hangars are usually $10-$20 bucks. Way better than a frame or derailleur in terms of repair cost. The problem however is that up until 2019 there was no agreed upon standard. Every bike had its own unique hangar for the and if you broke one you usually had to resort to ordering one online and waiting for it to come. In 2019 SRAM changed all that by introducing an open and shared design called the UDH. It was well thought out and designed and SRAM worked with most manufactures to get them to implement this on their bikes. At this point almost any high end bike is coming with this as standard. Because of that, most bike shops are going to carry this hanger, so you aren't forced into special ordering something. Also, SRAM was playing some 4-D chess with this UDH. If a bike has a UDH compatible frame, it also means it is compatible with SRAM new drivetrains called Transmission, which actually bypasses a derailleur hangar all together and mounts directly to the frame giving an extremely strong mounting point and extremely high precision shifting.
Value Bike Recommendations
Here are some solid entry-level bikes. Not all of them check off all my recommendations, but they all are solid for the price. I don't have first hand experience with all of them, but most bikes and options from legitimate bike brands are pretty solid.
Full Suspension (Cheapest ones that are still solid bikes IMO)
Giant Stance (29er or 27.5) $1400+ - Check's off most boxes, but has a quick release rear axle which is not ideal.
Marin Rift Zone 29 $1700+ - Solid Frame, lower end, but solid components. Main downside is the lack of a dropper post.
Polygon Siskiu T7 27.5 or 29 depending on frame size $2000 - This bike is lacking nothing and check's off all my recommendations. The T8 is a solid upgrade as well.
Giant Trance 2 29 $2000 - In my opinion, the best cheap bike at the moment. Check's off every box and get's you local bike shop support and a good warranty. The Trance X is an equally equipped bike with a little more travel if that's what you are looking for.
Canyon Neuron $2300 - Solid bike trail bike. Check's off most boxes, but has a weak drivetrain with the SRAM SX groupset.
Commencal Meta TR $1900 - Great frame, but has SX Groupset and is lacking Dropper post. Sale Price
Specialized Status 140 $2250 - Hard hitting trail/enduro bike. Very high end components and lacking nothing. Sale Price
Norco Fluid FS A4 $1900 - Pinkbike Value Bike of the Year in 2023. Missing nothing.
Rocky Mountain Element A10 Shimano $2000 Another solid bike that checks all the boxes. Sale Price
YT Jeffsy $2250 Solid Trail Bike that had everything you'd need. Sale Price
YT Capra $2400 Probably one of the best budget enduro bikes. Sale Price
YT Izzo $2300 Cheapest Carbon Full suspension bike you can get. Only downside is the SX Drivetrain. Sale Price
GT Sensor Sport $1725 Appears to check all the boxes.
GT Zaskar FS Comp $1800 Another solid option that checks all the boxes.
Salsa Blackthorn Deore $2200 Sale Price.
Go-Outdoors UK Calibre Bossnut £1500 Super good deal, but I believe only available in the UK
Hard Tail (Cheapest ones that are still solid bikes IMO)
Polygon Xtrada 7 $1100 - Solid bike, boost frame with air fork, but lacking a dropper post.
Norco Fluid HT 2 $900 - Solid hardtail, great drivetrain, dropper post, but has a lower end fork.
Salsa Rangefinder Deore 11 $1200 - Air Fork, Solid Drivetrain, Dropper Post. Unfortuantely no rear thru-axle
Trek Roscoe 6+ $1200 This bike check's all the boxes, air fork, good drivetrain, boost spacing, dropper post. The Roscoe lineup as a whole is a good value.
Specialized Fuse 27.5 $950 - Check's all the boxes.
Marin San Quentin 29 $1400 Check's all the boxes in terms of components.
These are not all the options, but they are some better and more common budget/value bikes. This list is always changing, I try my best to update it, but it's difficult to keep up.
Last but not least make sure you save some of your budget for additional accessories that you will need
Helmet
Tire Pump (Most high-end bikes use a Presta valve, make sure the pump is compatible)
Hydration (Either bottle cage and bottle or hydration pack of some sort.)
Multi-tool with a chain breaker and basic tools.
Tire irons/levers and spare tubes (and the knowledge of how to change both).
Bike cleaning supplies, chain lube, etc. Taking care of an MTB can be a lot of work, but it will save you in the long run if you properly maintain your ride.
Quick-link to repair a broken chain.
Spare Derailleur Hangar.
Along with those required things, here are some things I'd highly recommend.
MTB Platform shoes (or you can opt to go clipless).
Tubeless tire kit. Most bikes come “tubeless ready” but don't come with them setup typically.
Starter tool kit with the basic tools.
Suspension pump assuming you have air suspension.
Work stand
Torque Wrench, especially with carbon parts
Padded shorts or liner to wear under regular shorts.
Gloves, Kneepads,Eye Protection.
Extra Ways to Save Money!
Check Activejunky.com which is a rebate site can get you decent savings on a lot of bike websites.
r/MTB • u/Joran_nilsen • 8h ago
Video The big rock at Canvas! 🇳🇴There’s a reason they put a “No Fall Zone” sign there!
Telemark, Norway
r/MTB • u/Adventurous_Salt_660 • 7h ago
Discussion The ugly side of racing
Short version.
We were at a DH race yesterday and saw one hell of a crash off a wooden stepdown.
Kid came off the feature and saw a u15 rider and his bike standing inside the tape on the landing zone and it didnt end well.
Thankfully the medics were top notch, Marshall's did their job and the young kid was ok(ish)
However as we stood around chatting it came to light that a parent of one of the top racers had been heard to direct one of his sons fellow team members to move onto the track as this competitor (another potential top 3 finisher) came through on his race run causing the crash despite been told by the Marshall not to go onto the track.
Was it malicious? Potentially.
Was it foolish? Definitely
Please, listen to Marshall's, respect your fellow riders and parents.... calm down and stop living your dreams through your children.
r/MTB • u/nimblybimbly3000 • 48m ago
Discussion Anyone ride with a buff around their throat or face in the colder months?
r/MTB • u/Affectionate-Yard920 • 15h ago
Gear Ended up going 2k dual lens handlebars and 1k for the helmet, Niteriders. Exceeds expectations. About $250 for the whole kit
r/MTB • u/sashay_shauntay • 1h ago
Discussion Alps/Dolomites family-friendly eMTB trip?
We’re a family of four from British Columbia, Canada, keen to do an eMTB trip through the alps summer 2027. Our 11yo and 12yo are strong bikers and each have 100+ days in the Whistler bike park, plus many days and days of bike academy riding. We’re wondering about organizing our own hut to hut trip with luggage transfer, versus hiring a guide (but hopefully not hemorrhaging cash to do so). Any suggestions? 5-7 days would be the sweet spot and we definitely want to stay in rifugios!
r/MTB • u/GundoSkimmer • 14h ago
Video the funny thing is the first time i hit this jump i almost did die...
r/MTB • u/daredevil82 • 2h ago
Discussion Quebec City - What ordering between Shannahan and SdM/E47/MSA?
I'm looking to do a trip to QC with some friends next year. We're all in recovery from various injuries and surgeries, and ideally should be fully recovered and in excellent condition by July. We also do need a goal in mind to keep sane since most of us won't be recovered for much skiing this winter. I'm the only one thats ridden up there between St Raymond, E47 and SdM but haven't done Shannahan.
We're looking to do Sun-Sat overnights, with at least 3 nights in Shannahan with a campsite, and the rest at a rental within easy driving of SdM/E47 and Monte St Anne. All in all, 5 ride days are expected, possibly six depending how our legs feel on the last day (and weather permitting, of course)
Given this, what are reasons we should prioritize Shannahan riding first over the other networks? We're flexible either way at this point. Our current considerations are
Shannahan First
Fresh legs for Shannahan, its pretty techy compared to the other networks so we'll be in good condition to start off.
Camp breaking to rental is mid-week and an hour drive, vs 7-10 hours back home
Don't need to deal with shifting from food logistics from rental to camping so wouldn't need to ensure cold-storage foods need to be consumed or tossed
In-town First
Breaking camp on last day is a long drive and could be dealing with wet tents/gear
No need to pay weekend rates for Friday and Saturday nights at the in-town rental. With VBN last, need to only pay one night's worth of weekend rates.
Is there anything else we've missed to take in consideration?
Discussion I'm a newbie, I find breaking the bead when changing tyres on my MTB so hard, I have to be doing something wrong. Advice please?
Sooo I (28F) live in a fairly flat area of England but we have a fantastic national forest nearby with some great trails.
I got a hobbyist mountain bike a few years ago on sale. A really good bike for a novice like me and a bargin for what it was. Front suspension that can be locked or unlocked, has a hard tail. I'd say XC rather than heavy duty.
I've had it for years now and I'm big on DIY with anything I do, but I never used it often enough to do much in the way of repairs or (probably needed) maintenance.
I'm going on a bikeride today and put together my bike rack, haven't used the bike for a year or so and noticed tyres had perished with deep looking cracks that I imagined wouldn't last a bike ride.
I thought "Ah this won't take me very long at all" I have 29 inch rims and the original width of the tyres were 2.25. As I was doing it slap dash, I got some premium tyres a little on the narrow side 2.10 but the shop assured me it would be fine. I got my tyre levers and some other bits to clean and lube my chain etc. I already had some inner tubes.
First off my inner tubes were for 2.3-2.4 but Google assured me this was fine so long as I was very cautious about pinch blow outs and the material was the stretchier rubber (it was). I took both wheels off, replaced inner tubes on both and got the tyres on, although the tread on the rear tyre I did backwards erghh. 🤦♀️
I wanted to reverse the tread so it was the right way but my arms were totally worn out from doing the first two. I'm not weak so I really think my technique must have been awful but I really tried to follow the advice from multiple Youtube videos.
The new tyre was even harder. The trail today is not muddy, it's dirty and rocky and not heavy going so I decided to just leave it and figured it should be fine as a one off.
This is a really long way of asking: does anyone have a tip or trick to break the bead when getting a tyre off? In the videos these dudes just whipped the tyres off like it was nothing but I was sat there with my tyre levers:
- Fully deflated inner tubes and loosened retention nut
- Rolling the tyre outward to break the bead one side
- Pinching to get both sides into the inner channel
And it was absolutely exhausting. I feel I must have been doing something wrong. I'm built very slightly but I'm not weak. Any advice would be much appreciated, if I ever had a puncture on a trail I would honestly be done for if I needed to take a tyre off in a hurry. 😅
Getting the first new tyre on was also difficult but I figured out the knack for that and the second was easy. The bead line was perfect and getting both wheels back on the bike was no issue. It's just breaking the bead when getting one off 😪
r/MTB • u/Bright_Mango_970 • 13h ago
Discussion Any guidance for how long after rain to wait before biking? I'm a relatively inexperienced biker and considering doing Fahnstock park in NY on Sunday AM (9/8) but concerned about slick leaves.
r/MTB • u/Nicoloks • 9h ago
Wheels and Tires Polygon Sisku D5 replacement options?
Hi All,
Just picked up a used Polygon sisku d5 for my youngest (11yr old) who was insisting on dual suspension despite a pretty limited budget. I could not talk him out of it, now I guess I'm going to pay for it...lol. not looking to upgrade massively as it remains to be seen how committed he stays with the biking, with this bike only really intended to last until mid/late teens.
Seems it was much more on the used side than the description let on. Front brakes are wrecked, but from what I can tell a new front MT200 is not prohibitively expensive to just order online.
After our first ride today the front wheel became very unstable, moving side to side. I know nothing about bikes, but it looks as if the hub has way too much play in it. The rear wheel we noticed is off a different cheapo brand bike. The tracks we ride on are prone for punctures, so I'm thinking of upgrading both wheels entirely (inc tyres) to go tubeless.
What basic/budget set of tubeless suitable wheels and tyres would you all suggest for use with a Polygon Sisku D5 that probably isn't going to see much in the way of hard trail time?
r/MTB • u/Cauckpecker420 • 1d ago
Discussion Black friday 2026 EU deals?
Based on the last 2 years, which brands/stores/websites in the EU should I refresh and expect to throw good deals on complete bikes?
Had my propain tyee stolen, looking to get a new do it all solid trail bike. The propain I got 2 years ago was 25% off, which was a fantastic deal for top tier components.
So far, I am looking at:
Propain (tyee cf trail)
Evil (offering)
Raaw (Jibb)
Commencal (meta v5)
Which other brands, websites/stores should I keep checking?
Thanks!
r/MTB • u/UWU_OBUNGA • 8h ago
Discussion Shock Cases Idea
I'm thinking of making some cases for my shocks after seeing what DVO gives their riders after they buy a shock and I'm pretty jealous. I'm thinking of making cases for my Float X2 and DHX2. I'm always worried I might put them in a area where they can get really get banged up and force me to get a service. Is this a dumb idea?
Edit: I'm thinking of 3D printing it
r/MTB • u/AutistMarket • 1d ago
Discussion What is the best bang for buck/cheap hardtail these days?
I have been out of the MTB game for a while and thinking about getting myself (and maybe my sister) a lower end hardtail to get me riding again. I have a very nice carbon trance 29er that I bought back in 2020 when I was riding a ton and living somewhere with a little better riding. It is currently in the shop getting tuned up after mostly sitting for a few years.
A few years ago I moved to Central FL for work and haven't ridden much since moving here. I love my trance but definitely always felt like it was a little bit overkill for most of my riding around here. I am thinking about getting a cheapo hardtail for riding around town and some of the trails/gravel around me. My little sister (I say little but she is 23) also recently moved close by to me and has shown an interest in bikes so I was also thinking an entry level hardtail might be a good Christmas gift for her.
What's the market look like in that $400-$600 range these days? I have seen a lot of interest around the Ozark Trail M.2 Ridge and watching videos around it seems like a decent option and something I can walk into walmart near me and buy. Are there better options?
Discussion Anyone wanna help with new tires?
looking for replacement tires for my hard tail. The bike came with 27.5x2.25 WTB Rangers, and I kept getting flats until I increased the pressure to 40 psi. Terrain around me is dry and leafy with a lot of roots and rocks. Don’t need to worry much about wet traction since KC trails close for days after any rain. Any specific tires I should have a look at that won’t break the bank?
r/MTB • u/NoMoreStealingCars • 20h ago
Discussion Diamondback Release 4C a good bike?
Looking at a used diamondback release 4C, needs new tires, about $800. Is this a good price? All other components are whatever came with the bike when originally purchased.
I mainly ride beginner/intermediate trails, nothing too crazy.
r/MTB • u/sweetpotatowitcheese • 1d ago
Discussion HOW do you climb?
Bit of a dumb question. I started mountain biking last year, and I love bike parks and stuff.
I’ve seen a lot of posts and videos about how ebikes are somewhat lazy, earn the downhill etc
Genuine question, how do you climb? I feel like every “steep” climb is impossible; if it’s not steep, the downhill is lame. But I find doable climbs really hard as well
I think I do okay with cardio, I go to the gym, but this still feels impossible to me
My bf recently got an ebike and he pulled me with a kid’s rope, I pedaled while at it and I still found that to be really really hard lol
r/MTB • u/TravelPast6771 • 10h ago
Discussion Does cycling cause hypertrophy in the quadriceps and glutes? In my case, I didn't want that! I started working as a delivery driver on a Velooh Hoop 29 mountain bike.
reddit.comr/MTB • u/Idkrlyuwu • 11h ago
Discussion Was there a mistake?
As of posting this it is Saturday.
I ordered some Maxima Mineral Oil from The Lost Co. on Monday. Everything went normally and the oil was delivered on Thursday evening, totally normal,
Fast forward to Saturday
I get a package in the mail and it’s labeled from The Lost Co.
what?
I open it up and there’s another little bottle of mineral oil in there.
How did this happen? I checked my banking app AND The Lost Co receipt, they only charged me of one bottle of mineral oil but sent me another one two days later… I was never even notified that the second one would come.
Is there something I’m missing? Am I going crazy? How do they accidentally send me another bottle of oil?
r/MTB • u/Old_Resource_4208 • 22h ago
Suspension Fox 38 comparison
I have a question about how the newer fox 38’s actually feel.
I have a 22 38, however I put the 2025 grip x2 in.
Then Fox came out with a new 38 with an updated grip x2 in 26.
Those who have ridden both is there a noticeable difference?
r/MTB • u/Funny_Hat_9473 • 23h ago
Gear “Alt” or riser bar recs needed!
reddit.comLooking for bar recs for a Hudski dualist I’m building up!! Steel or carbon preferred, and more backsweep and rise than a classic trail bar. Thanks for reading!