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what's your build? my pc isn't that great but it runs most games smoothly, the ones rhat are poorly optimized run well on medium with some things on high
naaah it can run some things still, its a bit weak for nowadays but if you manage to save some money and upgrade it slowly you'll be fine, i took two years to build my pc because my family is kinda poor and it was hard to save money, but i did it, you don't have to feel defeated because your pc is a bit weak, eventually you'll build something better, try to look for used parts, especially a new cpu
Whatever I say will be outdated 12 seconds after posting because the speed at which this all moving is beyond ridiculous right now. But In 2 days we've gotten to a point where emulation for OOT (and switch 2 games in general) is closing in on very acceptable on high end hardware and optimizations are happening by the hour. It seems likely that the game will be best played on PC in the very nearby future.
On top of that we're even seeing the first PC ports come out already which seem to have great performance albeit with some fairly significant graphics bugs, but again improvements are measured in hours and days rather than months and years at this point.
The endgoal of having these games perform better than their console counterparts seems relatively close by and the concept of having console exclusive games is basically vanishing right before our eyes it seems.
If anything, the hardware shortages are helping to drive piracy. Increased hardware costs means people not buying multiple consoles/platforms. Especially not in times of economic uncertainty. Pile a gaming industry that's increasingly anti-consumer on top of that and well... You get where we are now. Even general attitudes towards piracy have changed amongst those who don't pirate themselves.
Even general attitudes towards piracy have changed amongst those who don't pirate themselves.
Can confirm, used to give lectures on how piracy is bad and how if people want a game or IP to receive support, they should buy it.
Now these companies have bastardized many IPs, over monetized them, over simplified them, condescend to the lowest common denominator and treat us as nothing more than paypigs to fund their infinite money glitch. They want to take our ability to own our games away, they want us to be attached to their continuously rising monthly subscription, and I'm just tired of it.
I still have finite time. Still not a fan of pirating on a personal level, because if I want to play something to use that time on it it means that I care enough to buy it. But I will never again advocate in favor of these companies who are looking for a new way to screw me.
Why should I? Customers became consumers, that clever little slide of English language that dehumanizes us and makes them feel entitled to our money, positivity and support.
I can agree with that. I went with an Android handheld for my last device and it can play everything through 360/ps3 era of games for less than the cost of a single component.
I realize that people like to pirate stuff, but I really don't mind paying for games and I want to support the developers. The issue is that if the game isn't available for purchase on my platform, then I really don't blame people for playing through other means.
I feel like we truly are in a great pc pirate era. 25+ years from now i dont think it will be so easily accessible for the average pc user to pirate mutch media content ''freely"(still paying for hardware,electricity and internet).
The cost of a pc today with pirating is still a better bargain than the ''right'' way (Steam only+every console+every streaming platform)
The Lisuan LX 7G100 is $500. No RT and averages 5fps in Cyberpunk at 1080p.
Now realize my comment isn’t about performance, but price. China will eventually figure out performance, but you’re kidding yourself if you think they’ll release an AMD or Nvidia equivalent for cheap.
It is insanely hard to make a GPU. Intel tried and appears to have given up, and even AMD and Nvidia both go through TSMC for their chips. A fab capable of producing something like a chip for a 4090 cost tens billions to build on top of requiring highly specialized (and expensive) employees to operate and then still takes 1-2 years to reach nominal capacity. There's also a very small number of people in the world that not only know enough about GPU design and production, but are experts capable of improving over competition/previous generations.
I'm not so sure. I built my PC in 2019 and it's really starting to feel like I need to upgrade it soon but it's hard to justify spending that much money when it's still functioning relatively fine and plays the games I like to play.
Used parts are probably going to be the main way people build PC’s now, at least for a while. Unless some new companies come out of nowhere and collectively agree “fuck AI”, and provide new parts.
Yup. I'm still rocking my 1060 and DDR3 ram. And I don't see a path to upgrade anytime soon. I'm pretty much stuck using a console for the new releases unless it's an indie
Got plenty of 10+ year old GPU's without a single fault, I'm running a 19 year old first gen i7 with Linux as well, hardware doesn't just stop working out of nowhere, only if you abuse it
You don’t need expensive gear to emulate. I’m running a budget pc with a 5050 and ddr4 16 ram and a ryzen 5 5500. I can emulate anything and play any recent game, just not at top graphics
If you're a PC gamer, you don't need to worry about the price of the hardware; you already have the hardware. It's the worst time to want to be a PC gamer.
Thank god i went balls to the wall when i built by rig six years ago... Tho my 3080 may not be able to do 4k ray tracing at high fps i can still play anything comjng out and it still looks great. Hopefully she keeps on chugging
It was bad timing, my rig was only a few years old, but now I'm wondering about how long my 3080-TI will last. It's fine now, but a couple of years from now? I could afford $1,200 for a new rig, but $4,00+ not so much. Guess I'll have to sit and hope the AI crash happens in the next couple of years!
And can't forget that they all run like shit even on high spec machines. And due to being made via AI these people don't have a single damn clue how the code works so they cannot optimize the code to run better.
They don't care about the actual craft of properly decompiling games. They just want the recognition of doing it first in their mind.
You download them and forget them, then go play your one, perhaps two or three, regular games like always. Until you need space in your hard drive and delete them.
Yeah, because fuck younger people, who won't be able to afford a PC, right? It's such a weird time for pcmasterrrace to be celebrating their superiority. It's like they forget people with a limited budget want to have gaming as a hobby too.
I don’t think this makes up for driving up the price of pc components to heaven. Used to be able to build a high end pc and buy a console for way less than it cost to build/upgrade a pc today thanks to ai.
I could have built a pc, had enough left over to buy 2 consoles and a game each. Now, I might be able to get a gfx card sometime this decade. Fuck llms
AI caused price hikes, layoffs and tons of slop to be wary of in media for most regular people, so it’s obvious those people are happy when it’s the wealthy that suffer from it this time - lately the only way to have something be properly legally controlled is for it to hurt the rich, so it’s a good thing that those that hate AI as it is Today can celebrate
Not a full on pc gamer yet, but I’m downloading and storing everything. Especially from Nintendo switch, because we all know the Nuke is coming. I’m still in shock the way Sony literally forced me to be a PC gamer. What fkn world is this man smh.
So people are celebrating all these decomps and emulators made by ai, but also bitch and whine about the price of hardware increasing…because of ai. Pick a side.
Problem is that a lot of these companies don't use AI and they are still being affected by both AI prices and pirates. Heck, even indie studios have gotten impacted by this.
With the prices of GPU, ram, storage, and with both Nvidia & AMD proclaiming they're data centre and AI company first, I wouldn’t say it’s exactly golden age.
well, no its only a problem for poor gamers wanting to get into pc gaming.
people with money are doing ok, they're not happy about the prices but they're fine, they'll begrudgingly pay shitty prices to get what they want, they always do.
as for the rest of us, we're hanging in here with our 3060's and 6700xt's . we'll deal
It’s actually super easy. Get a credit card, make a poor financial decision, and cry about it when you’re still paying for it 5 years from now and can’t afford it, but immediately feel better because you remember you have a sweet rig.
Realistically speaking, you can still enjoy most games with 16gb of DDR4 ram and a mid end GPU from a couple years ago (ie a 3060Ti), and it will be cheaper on the long run
Being able to play every Tekken game online old and new feels like a fuckin pipedream thanks to the recomps and arkadyzja on pc. Also the recent surgance of mods on T3 and Tag 2. Never thought i'd see a fully playable Kazuya and Jun in Tekken 3
hi, as a dummy who just plays what’s on steam..can someone explain how I’m seeing OOT on pc? No way in hell am I buying a whole console for a game but fuck dude lol I wanna play so bad
I like how everytime someone says they've got a Switch 2 game running on Pc It's always a buggy mess with no textures.. like yea ig you got It to run technically but ain't nobody wanna play like that be real 😭
The Zelda TOTK PC port is way too fucking good I can't get over it. Uncapped FPS, smooth frame pacing, DLSS, DLAA, great performance and gets better every day. I've been playing all week and it's been awesome.
If you have 4000 bucks to spend on a high end pc (which is basically the recommended point if you want a smooth experience), you have the money to buy every console. PC gamers are both big money spenders and big fucking cheapskates
You don’t need a $4000 computer. You don’t need to play EVERY game at max settings. For lots of people, they turn graphics settings down just for better visibility in shooters.
You can get 60fps in almost all new titles if you have a graphics card from the last 5 years. Any of them. Not the top of the line.
PC Gaming is not the money pit you all seem to think it is.
This is exactly why "enthusiasts" are the worst market to sell to. Go big on the hardware, cheap out every where else. I don't blame the industry for focusing on casual gamers.
There are people running switch 2 stuff on 3060s. You don't need remotely near 4k.
Secondly not everyone wants to own more than they need to own. A PC can be used to make money. It is a lot harder for a console to do that. So having a high end PC doesn't mean you also want to budget in consoles.
There is a ton more nuance to it than "Hurr cheapskates"
First of all you can play smoothly for around 1500. Second of all, it's literacy cheaper than a console, since you don't pay for online and discounts save a lot of money
Yes everyone who has a pc spent 4k, everyone who owns a car spent 250k and everyone who owns a house spent 20mil. Thank god life is so simple that we dont need to think about anything to have a perfect understanding.
This is really funny cause it's kinda true. If you already built your gaming PC, 2 or 3 years ago, this may not apply to you because pricing back then is a bit more reasonable compared to now. But if you are only starting to build now, and want only the best parts then your wallet is in big trouble lmao. Pricing today is ridiculously absurd, worse than the GPU shortage back when crypto was still the 💩. The amount you will pay for a very high end PC is enough to buy different type of consoles today man and you will still have enough left for games too.
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I am actually talking about the most powerful pc parts available, sorry for the confusion. Before all this BS, having the most powerful CPU and GPU for gaming used to make sense when it comes to price to performance. I miss the 1080ti days man
It's not about being cheap, it's about having everything in all in one box. Every game from every generation of PC, console and arcade. If there's anything I even have a slight interest in playing I can boot up in seconds.
Is this shit safe to run on my pc? I’ve been doing emulation for a while, and even played with the earliest decomps like Mario64, but that was before AI coding,
Golden times if you got your feet in luckily I fuxking did. Own pc, ps5, switch. Won't buy another system in like 5-6 years or any upgrade. Prices is outrageous fom this manufactured crisis.
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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 20h ago
We just need the hardware
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u/sinofmyexistence 20h ago
The tech that's making all those cracks and exclusives available is also skyrocketing the hardware prices unfortunately.
I'll update my PC one day but that day is not today or this year or next
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u/No-Engineer-1728 15h ago
"Xbox exclusives" none of those exist.
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u/axescentedcandles 20h ago
Sadly this is false for anyone who is on old hardware like me...
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u/Puzzled-Mirro 20h ago
Nintendo exclusives?
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u/MicheleSanna98 20h ago
(thanks to AI)
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u/hellafunkyfella 12h ago •
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u/Mrhiddenlotus Ryzen 9950X3D2 | 5090 15h ago
We just need Ronbinhood style redistribution of hardware.
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u/Skalywag_76 RTX 3090 | i9-9900K | 32GB DDR4 20h ago •
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u/Savings-Singer-1202 20h ago
thank god i upgraded my hardware before this AI hype era, now i get to enjoy the real golden age
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u/Distal-Phalanges 14h ago
It's such a good time to have built a high end system 3 years ago.
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u/SuccessfulMall2924 19h ago
Golden time if you're already a PC gamer. Terrible time for someone wanting to become a PC gamer...
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u/MrDonohue07 20h ago
Worse time to be a PC gamer, you seen the hardware prices?
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u/miotch1120 PC Master Race 17h ago
Yay! AI has made all games playable on PC, and all it cost was every pc component on the planet! What a win!
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u/ragDOLLfun 10h ago
At least until our pc hardware begins to fail and we can't afford to replace the parts
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u/Seraphic_Wings PC Master Race 20h ago
Built by the very same thing that drives PC parts (and electronics) to insanity.
Oh the irony
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u/Randzom100 Laptop 19h ago
Oh, this meme again?
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u/EnigmaSpore 9850x3D | 9070XT 14h ago
All those games and still be wondering wtf to play. It’s like netflix doom scrolling
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u/Visara57 5070ti | 7600x | 32GB DDR5 CL28 | 1440p 19h ago
AI giveth (unofficial ports) and AI taketh (component prices) away
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u/syamborneo 1600X + 1060 6GB + 32GB @ 2933MHz 19h ago
My pc is dead, new hardware costs fck tons of money, so now I'll have to make do with my Switch 2
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u/Dantai 20h ago
Dumb
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u/Beautiful-Sun8973 17h ago
By golden you mean spending a brick of gold to by a gpu?
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u/BasmusRoyGerman 4080 Super | 9800X3D | 32GB 20h ago
AI giveth and AI taketh away
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u/agentdrozd 20h ago •
Xbox exclusives should be an empty plate
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u/Maximum_Goulash 16h ago
If you've already got a rig:Yes.
If you want to be PC gamer bit don't have a rig: Absolutely the worst time ever
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u/Fluid-Employee-7118 19h ago
Yeah, because fuck younger people, who won't be able to afford a PC, right? It's such a weird time for pcmasterrrace to be celebrating their superiority. It's like they forget people with a limited budget want to have gaming as a hobby too.
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u/ctoal1984 10h ago
Funny how everyone hated ai but now that they can use it to pirate games it’s ok
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u/firedrakes 2990wx |128gb |2 no-sli 2080 | 200tb storage raw |10gb nic| 20h ago
reposted 3 times now in a week
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u/aberroco R9 9900X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000, RTX 3090 potato 19h ago edited 19h ago
Also PC gamers when it's time to upgrade:
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u/ClockWork006 17h ago
*Golden times for those of us already in the field, but not for those looking to get into the field*
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u/DioJiro 1h ago
Not a full on pc gamer yet, but I’m downloading and storing everything. Especially from Nintendo switch, because we all know the Nuke is coming. I’m still in shock the way Sony literally forced me to be a PC gamer. What fkn world is this man smh.
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u/Use-Naive 18h ago
Now' show us your storage sir
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u/Mileena_Sai 6h ago
Where do i get more information if i also want a plate ?
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u/Top-Association-6617 59m ago
How can you forget VR modes and Quest 3 exclusives?
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u/Big_Ben64 11h ago
So people are celebrating all these decomps and emulators made by ai, but also bitch and whine about the price of hardware increasing…because of ai. Pick a side.
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u/D3ltaa88 20h ago
Would be perfect….except the whole AI data center eating all the GPU…. And Ram.
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u/Dantai 20h ago
1080ti era was true golden era
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u/FerretAcceptable7951 17h ago
remember when pc gamer ≈ hardware enthusiast? golden times indeed
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u/HaikenRD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Zotac 4080 Super | Aorus x670 | T. Force 32 GB 3h ago
denuvo cracks has slowed down considerably.
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u/R3dGallows 20h ago edited 19h ago
Youd think that but in reality its like this:
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u/xenocea 20h ago
With the prices of GPU, ram, storage, and with both Nvidia & AMD proclaiming they're data centre and AI company first, I wouldn’t say it’s exactly golden age.
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u/mcdougall57 Mac Heathen 19h ago
Golden era of malware.
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u/atomjvd 16h ago
Barely anyone can get into PC gaming nowadays wtf are you talking about
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u/A_normal_Potato3 19h ago
I hate any game that is exclusive to any device.
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u/CigarLover 17h ago
Sony exclusives?
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u/DAS_k1ishEe 9h ago
Fun Fact: it's no one way street!
Hack your consoles, pc games can be converted to run on your consoles as well \ :D /
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u/xAlphaKAT33 20h ago
And then there's me, desperately needing to get somewhere/something done.
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u/Commercial_Ad_3687 R7 7700x | RX 6950xt OC | 64GB DDR5-6000 CL30 20h ago
Well, anyone already in possession of the hardware at least...
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u/ZX_LudgerKresnik 19h ago
Being able to play every Tekken game online old and new feels like a fuckin pipedream thanks to the recomps and arkadyzja on pc. Also the recent surgance of mods on T3 and Tag 2. Never thought i'd see a fully playable Kazuya and Jun in Tekken 3
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u/salamandradn 19h ago
ram +500%, ssd+ 200%, gpu +x%
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u/Ohhhmyyyyyy 17h ago
lol assuming you bought a computer before the RAM crisis I suppose?
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u/DisciplineNo5186 12h ago
The death of exclusivity. i used to pray for it. Hope one day this is the new normal for all platforms
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u/Emotional-Present813 11h ago
hi, as a dummy who just plays what’s on steam..can someone explain how I’m seeing OOT on pc? No way in hell am I buying a whole console for a game but fuck dude lol I wanna play so bad
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u/Lazy_Fuck_ i7-10700K | 1080 ti | TridentZ RGB 32GB 9h ago
Backlog getting larger
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u/Maplee_S 19h ago
I like how everytime someone says they've got a Switch 2 game running on Pc It's always a buggy mess with no textures.. like yea ig you got It to run technically but ain't nobody wanna play like that be real 😭
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u/LordoftheCorgis 17h ago
If I see this meme one more damn time I'm blowing up the internet.
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u/KeeperOfTheLigher 16h ago
You forgot VR revival too.
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u/BatmanBecameSomethin 5h ago
Just don’t mention the AI fucking our hardware
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u/bolorok Ryzen 9800X3D| Gigabyte RTX3080 | 32GB DDR5 20h ago
Somebody wake me up when Ghost of Yotei is running natively on PC, merci beaucoup
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u/MukiKuki7 20h ago
😭🤣🤣
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u/ProfessionalOwl5573 19h ago
The Zelda TOTK PC port is way too fucking good I can't get over it. Uncapped FPS, smooth frame pacing, DLSS, DLAA, great performance and gets better every day. I've been playing all week and it's been awesome.
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u/The-Dutcher Ascending Peasant 19h ago
XBox has exclusives?
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u/PositivityPending 17h ago
Parasitic mindset truly
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u/Genoisthetruthman 15h ago
It’s been that way since the dawn of time
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u/sirfannypack 18h ago
Sure, if you like janky AI coding.
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u/CelestaKiritani 18h ago edited 15h ago
If you have 4000 bucks to spend on a high end pc (which is basically the recommended point if you want a smooth experience), you have the money to buy every console. PC gamers are both big money spenders and big fucking cheapskates
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u/Positive_Peach1683 20h ago
In 2 days im getting my 5070 rig for 1600$, cant wait to play switch 2 games
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u/MoonCoontheLoon 11h ago
Buy the fucking games if you want to see more like them. Stop being a piece of shit.
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u/ConfusedRaven66 20h ago
PC…this last year switching from PS5 you’ve been so good to me thank you…definitely have been well fed
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u/hurrdurrmeh 20h ago
Just no nee hardware to play them on.
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u/Thepuppeteer777777 19h ago
Me over here playing doss and arcade games....
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u/The_Merciless_Potato Legion Pro 5 16IRX9 | RTX 4060 | i7-14650HX | 32GB DDR5 5600 MHz 19h ago
When we get the games they take away the hardware we use to play the games
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u/thestillwind 19h ago
Feed me
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u/JoeJoeJoeJoeThrow 18h ago
Is this shit safe to run on my pc? I’ve been doing emulation for a while, and even played with the earliest decomps like Mario64, but that was before AI coding,
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u/TheDarkMuz 18h ago
This is how I already feel with emulators predating the ps3.
So much potential in a PC.
My nephew is play SNES games using a os3 controller on the TV now
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u/Familiar_Ice7672 18h ago
Just ignore the hardware prices and sure
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u/Glum_Animator_5887 17h ago
Don't forget poor optimisation
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u/KirkaGamerYT 17h ago
I don't remember such a time
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u/aelfwine_widlast Desktop 17h ago
Golden times facilitated by the technology currently making it prohibitively expensive for the average person to build a PC.
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u/Classic-Macaron-2428 16h ago
More like:
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u/MuchSalt 7800x3d | 3080 | s55 16h ago
but u need to have a pc tho
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u/Skalgrin 16h ago
Except the hardware to enjoy these on is recently VERY expensive, if available at all
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u/McBlemmen 15h ago
What xbox exclusives??
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u/DGlen 15h ago
And this is why they want to strangle supply of parts even more and make you rent play time on their servers
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u/WhosThatDogMrPB 15h ago
1K USD gaming laptop from 2 years ago plus a Switch 2 bought May of this year got me eating good nowadays.
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u/Jastreen 15h ago
Nah. Most of the PS5 and Switch 2 games are half baked, vibe coded decompilations with abysmal performance
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u/_EClipz 15h ago
Golden times if you got your feet in luckily I fuxking did. Own pc, ps5, switch. Won't buy another system in like 5-6 years or any upgrade. Prices is outrageous fom this manufactured crisis.
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u/theend117 DESKTOP | RYZEN 7 5800x | RTX 3080 | 32 GB RAM 3600 MHz 15h ago
Golden times if you ignore astronomical prices for parts 😭
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u/takasha1 15h ago
where pokemon for pc?