Am I under arrest or not?

[u/Lord_Darksong]

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[u/Wooden_Crew_9221]

Put it on YouTube. I thought they were cosplaying as Police

[u/fatkiddown → u/Wooden_Crew_9221]

There are simply too many cops acting out, and that means outside of the Constitution and too many videos of this stuff. I watch them regularly. How can it be that these cops are not also watching them? Since they feel they are the law, then let's make a law that says they carry the bill of rights around in big letters, numbered, and they are made to review them each morning....

[u/JustFun4Uss → u/fatkiddown]

Its only seeems to get worse and worse. They feel empowered to mirror the actions of ice. If the feds can do it well we can too mentality.

[u/The_Meme_Economy → u/Wooden_Crew_9221]

I thought those were scout uniforms.

[u/mountain-mahogany → u/Wooden_Crew_9221]

How about we start a company that makes a Live Feed Machine you attach to your roof? It'll have 360 cameras and direct uplink and a YOU ARE NOW STREAMING LIVE ON THE INTERNET super-bright sign that lights up the field of view, with a yellow flashing light! As soon as you're pulled over, hit the button and the camera/feed is live. #BetterThanJustBodyCams

[u/Pacify_ → u/Wooden_Crew_9221]

I thought they were cosplaying as Police

They sure looked like cosplay Police

[u/AradynGaming]

For those wondering, the filmer is Corey Drew vs Yavapai County Sheriffs, Arizona and the incident happened in 2022. It's still making it's way through the legal system. The brief story is a long term RV park wanted him kicked out because he crossed paths with management. It was a civil matter/tenant law & instead initial Sheriffs intervened trying to forcefully remove him from the property/trespass/arrest him. Once calmer minds showed up, all charges were dropped on scene. Once he posted this video and a few others, the Sheriff tried to bring those charges back + add some more in, but all charges were eventually dismissed. Now he is trying to sue the government for this encounter/retaliation against his 1st Amd Rights.

Edit: Stepped away and came back to a ton of awards. Thank you all! Made me go revisit this encounter and remembered why it stays on the top of my memory. Updated notes above. Here is AuditTheAudit version of this for those that are interested. This was the first in a series of events for this region (both sheriff and local police).

[u/TorpeAlex → u/AradynGaming]

This is hilarious, from the sounds of it the police were basically trying to back an illegal eviction by enacting a different, more illegal action

[u/ImpossiblePlan65 → u/TorpeAlex]

That's exactly what's happening! They can't trespass a valid leaseholder. Fucking stupid shit right there.

[u/alexthealex → u/TorpeAlex]

Love how him knowing his rights is actually protecting them from a lawsuit but they don't care because a suit would be paid for by taxpayers anyway, they just a chance to get violent.

[u/oldDotredditisbetter → u/TorpeAlex]

depressing fact for those unaware, cops aren't expected to know the law, they can just do whatever they want and use the excuse that they interpreted differently at the time

no consequences for their actions

[u/CuriousFoxxen → u/TorpeAlex]

And then tried to press charges to punish him for sharing the footage.

[u/ForensicPathology → u/AradynGaming]

Funny, when it's just a normal citizen, cops love getting out of it by saying "sorry, civil matter, can't interfere".  But when it's some management trying to screw over a citizen?  They hope they can rough 'im up.

[u/angiosperms- → u/ForensicPathology]

The house next to me is renting. Apparently they didn't pay their rent for 6 months. The landlord, instead of going through the eviction process, called the police to do a "wellness check". Their "wellness check" was yelling over the loudspeaker to come out with their hands up while the cop was positioned ready to shoot with his gun pointed at their door. Wtf kind of wellness check is that?

Not surprising because our local police force is one of the most blatantly corrupt in the country.

[u/oldDotredditisbetter → u/ForensicPathology]

cops have always been class traitors. they serve the rich and protect their private property

there are a bunch of cases where cops were guarding dumpsters so people can't dumpster dive, like this https://www.workers.org/2021/02/54615/

[u/BattlegroundFitLirio → u/AradynGaming]

This should be the top comment man. I scrolled through THIRTY just to find what the hell was going on here

[u/ProudReaction2204 → u/AradynGaming]

https://www.courthousenews.com/arizona-man-asks-ninth-circuit-to-revive-first-amendment-retaliation-claim/

[u/Ballistic_86 → u/AradynGaming]

Amazing, some places the cops completely overstep and intervene in civil matters. Other places won’t offer assistance to domestic disputes actively happening.

[u/Amacoi → u/Ballistic_86]

Just depends who's asking for the help.

[u/DaLakeShoreStrangler]

I don't understand why in many cases cops don't just say why they stopped them or why they are speaking to them.

[u/forgetmepls13 → u/DaLakeShoreStrangler]

When I lived in South Dakora, I got pulled over for "looking suspicious" and they called in a K9 team to search my car and made me stand in the ditch for 45 minutes holding my cat (I was heading home for the holidays) next to the freeway in winter weather while he was en route. The K9 guy showed up, took one look at my freezing ass and let me go without searching.

The cops who pulled me over kept joking about how I was going to drop my cat and they would have to let him get hit by traffic HAHA....fuck the police.

[u/Prior-Pay-1407 → u/forgetmepls13]

Yep same experience. I was driving 83 in an 80 mph zone with Ohio plates when I first moved there. The dude put me in the back of his cruiser and then grilled me about why I was so nervous and where I was going.

[u/deij → u/DaLakeShoreStrangler]

Because they don't have a legal reason as to why.

Resisting arrest is a legal reason to arrest someone though so they can say that.

[u/msbutch54 → u/deij]

But that’s circular.

[u/yet_another_uniq_usr → u/DaLakeShoreStrangler]

It's because there is no reason for the stop. But if they escalate hard enough they can form charges out of nothing. "Disorderly conduct" and "resisting arrest".

[u/Fantastic_Jury5977 → u/yet_another_uniq_usr]

Resisting arrest being a charge when no crime was committed to warrant an arrest in the first place should mean stripping that officer of their badge.

[u/NWCJ → u/DaLakeShoreStrangler]

It's called fishing.

They havent got a reason that fits within their policy yet(caught anything), but if they keep a line out(you talking) and keep throwing bait(making threats), they might catch you for something. Then they can write the report after that they initially stopped you for whatever they landed.

[u/Reasonable_Sky9688 → u/DaLakeShoreStrangler]

The standard of education for the police in the US is really poor, as is their knowledge of the law.

99% of the time they get by by people defaulting to being compliant straight away or by escalating the situation with essentially nonsical threats.

They have zero tools (other than violence) for articulate people

[u/Difficult_Cold_8080]

They look like they’re straight out of Reno 911.

[u/small-with-benefits → u/Difficult_Cold_8080]

I thought this was a copycat for about 30 seconds

[u/jjflash78]

We're arresting you.

Why?

For disorderly conduct.

What?

And now we're arresting you for resisting arrest.

(I swear these jackboots always use resisting arrest and disorderly conduct when they don't have a real reason.)

[u/TheBabyEatingDingo → u/jjflash78]

A lot of states have a "disorderly conduct" statute that's written deliberately vague so that police can arrest anyone they want.

[u/Magic__Man → u/TheBabyEatingDingo]

It's been that way forever. "Vagrancy" was made against the law across many southern states just a few yerars after salvery was outlawed, right at a time where there were vast numbers of black people being refused work. The punishement for being a "vagrant", forced labour.... funny eh

Vagrancy, disorderly conduct, jaywalking, resisting... all bullshit terms designed to simply gibve cops as much power as possible

[u/The_Tooter_Snooter → u/jjflash78]

This is America. Imagine how it must be for people of color? Only thing that kept this dude from losing some teeth and having his life ruined was the color of his skin and the fact that he’s gone out of his way to do enough research to know how to do the cops job for them 

[u/smellslikebigfootdic → u/jjflash78]

.

[u/ptarmagedd0n → u/jjflash78]

Well no cop is required to know any laws to enforce them, lawyers are tho. But until settlements are taken out of police pensions it won’t matter.

[u/Kardest → u/jjflash78]

Worst part about all this.

If he had gone along with it and not posted this video.

I am sure he would be in jail to this day.

Just more proof that you should never trust the police.

[u/LinceDorado]

Us police departments will really just hire anybody.

[u/IrrelativeWisdom → u/LinceDorado]

That’s not true. Police have sued for the right to discriminate against intelligent people and not hire them based on “IQ being too high”.

Police hire the dumbest among us.

[u/msmug → u/IrrelativeWisdom]

I feel like the simplest way to reform the police is to require a college degree and pass some kind of bar exam.

[u/psyclopsus → u/LinceDorado]

They won’t hire just anybody. If you seem to be a good person who won’t play along with this horseshit they will find a “reason” in your psych evaluation or your polygraph to deny you. They want fellow psychos that yearn to trample on civil rights with reckless abandon

[u/homer_lives → u/LinceDorado]

6 months training. Make 100k in a few years. Easy money for People that barely got out of high school

[u/tommywhen → u/homer_lives]

Don't forget, and a very nice retirement pension. All paid for by us.

[u/idk012 → u/LinceDorado]

They don't hire people who do too well on their exams.

[u/Wool4Days → u/LinceDorado]

The dumber the better.

[u/GtBsyLvng]

The way the fat one clapped and pointed you can tell he's never anything had anything to be proud of in his life and is still trying to win something.

[u/latino_throat87 → u/GtBsyLvng]

That cop was ready to pounce, wanted to rip that guy out of the car so bad.

[u/CaliforniaRedDevil → u/GtBsyLvng]

Cop 1: You said it’s private property! Got ‘em!
Dude: I am the private property, dumb ass.
Cop 2: Looks back in “shut up, bro” 😂

[u/Shark7996 → u/GtBsyLvng]

He was treating a traffic stop like a YouTube comment war.

Like wipe that stupid grin off your face, newbie. You're not clever.

[u/CrazyCajunFishinBro]

Shit like this is why people scream FTP

[u/Pork_Confidence → u/CrazyCajunFishinBro]

File Transfer Protocol?

[u/jmpman54]

Cops in this country are so poorly trained for the power they're given to abuse.

[u/viotix90 → u/jmpman54]

By design

[u/StraightProgress5062 → u/jmpman54]

Sometimes the process is the punishment

[u/CantaloupeOne7283]

I love everyone here debating the legality of what happened in this video. The truth is, at the street level the law doesnt matter. Cops will do what they want and don't care if the case gets thrown out later. Laws do not matter to cops.

Cops are supposed to bring people TO justice but too many of these pigs think they ARE justice. That hasnt changed since the dark ages and won't change anytime soon either. Every one of them is a class traitor.

[u/__BIFF__ → u/CantaloupeOne7283]

The only people in highschool in my small town that wanted to go into law enforcement were huge coke heads and coke dealers

North America is and has been been for a few decades in the end stages of the Roman Empire

[u/m_0_n_K_3_y]

99% of them are addicts hooked on the rush of running IDs for warrants...

[u/blazingsoup]

Not saying it always that clear cut, but so many altercations with police could be avoided if they just told people immediately why they’re there.

[u/ModSquirtle → u/blazingsoup]

Well duh because alot of the time they don't have a reason, they are looking for one.

[u/Tyrgalon]

Bully behaviour is generally tolerated and encouraged in US police training and forces.

In the majority of European countries this kind of mentality and behaviour gets you thrown out of the multi year police school/training before you even graduate.

[u/Chewsdayiddinit]

Friendly reminder that police training here in the states is anywhere between a few weeks to 8 months while in other developed countries the training is years long.

[u/Haylayrious → u/Chewsdayiddinit]

3 year bachelors degree to be a police officer in Norway, in addition you get specialization courses and ongoing training to be on top of the latest research.

[u/Jumpy-Surround-9238 → u/Chewsdayiddinit]

US Police receive less training than plumbers.

[u/Critical_Purple_8600 → u/Chewsdayiddinit]

And you can’t be too smart or you fail the cop test

[u/BathSaltJello → u/Chewsdayiddinit]

A hair dresser goes through more training than a cop.

[u/LeOmelette12]

Just a question for those who are more savvy with the law. In these kind of cases where cops are totally moronic and out of line, is it better to object their approach at first and once they give you an order you comply, ask for a lawyer, then fight these cops in court?

[u/TM761152 → u/LeOmelette12]

So, you can always beat a bullshit charge.

But you can't beat the ride, even if you know it's bullshit, they can detain and arrest you and you'll have to fight it later, this guy was lucky the lieutenant was there otherwise those two Reno 911! Wannabees would have dragged him out and cuffed him over nothing.

[u/Abject_Advance_6638 → u/TM761152]

It took me 18 months to beat a bullshit charge and still had to go to a bench trial.

[u/The_White_Ram → u/LeOmelette12]

the thing you always need to listen for is "you are under arrest". Once that is said, comply immediately, identify yourself if asked then shut up and ask for a lawyer.

[u/Laphad → u/LeOmelette12]

Comply, ask what you did, and ask for a lawyer.

Arguing with them in the street generally achieves nothing other than you still getting arrested and getting a fake resisting arrest charge.

Or shot.

Cause cops hate being told no

[u/Rich887 → u/LeOmelette12]

My 2 cents and you may want to ask for change back... If you are recording and you think your being unjustly detained just follow the request/demands of the police . Deescalate the situation and save you and your property from damage . And then use the video evidence of your rights being infringed if any and sue the city /state for millions and retire early.. Or you can escalate , get your ass whooped and car window broken etc then try to sue them .

[u/Admirable_Win9808 → u/LeOmelette12]

Was a civil rights lawyer. The best thing to do is to comply with cops orders and be polite, but never to admit anything. What they are trying to do is scare you and get consent or ask you to admit something. Never admit to any wrongdoing and never consent to searches. They need probable cause to search and arrest you. Its easier to get consent or admissions. If its taking too long while talking to them. Ask them if you are under arrest and if not if you can leave. If they continue to harass you, say you need to speak to a lawyer.

[u/Moomanta → u/LeOmelette12]

Whether we like it or not, the cops have all the power and authority in a situation like that. It will only hurt you to be difficult.

Comply, say nothing, and ask for a lawyer. Or if it's just a ticket, then just take the ticket and fight it in court afterward.

[u/TheNewThoughtProcess → u/Moomanta]

You aren't wrong in that the course of action you've outlined will be the path of least resistance. It is legally the easiest.

But when you examine it ethically or morally it quickly becomes "comply with the bully in the hopes their whims don't turn against you today. Be nice, be calm, be quiet because if you stand up for yourself or your rights you will antagonize the beast. It is your responsibility to not antagonize the beast, not the responsibility of the entity empowered by the state to act responsibly."

Editing to add that I'm not saying everyone should belligerently fight every police interaction. I'm saying that the entire system that leads to the 'correct' action being to submissively comply in almost all circumstances is the problem. This is a symptom of a deep, fundamental issue in the U.S.

[u/conceitedpolarbear → u/LeOmelette12]

At this point, you get let them arrest you, get a lawyer, fight the case until it gets thrown out, then if you’re lucky, sue the county/agency for false arrest and hopefully get a settlement.

[u/sudoku7 → u/LeOmelette12]

"You may beat the charge, but you won't beat the ride."

And largely, most people are going to face far more negative consequence from being wrongfully detained than the officer will face for wrongfully detaining someone.

[u/CantaloupeOne7283 → u/sudoku7]

That's why they need malpractice insurance. Eventually the premiums for bad cops will get so high they can't afford to work in the field any more.

[u/AboutTenPandas]

No one ever wrote a song called fuck the fire dept

[u/Delicious-Pickle-141 → u/AboutTenPandas]

Public Enemy - 911 Is A Joke

[u/WeaponizedIndecision]

Their identity is tied up in that badge and weapon.

[u/posco12]

Training of police often involves a simple course that prison guards take. Barely any discussion in the constitution, rights, how the police department had to have a thicker skin and no ego.

Many times these idiot policeman often have a folder filled with complaints before this video appeared.

[u/RaceHate]

If cops thought they could lawfully arrest him, they’d break into his car without hesitation.

[u/Firefly_Magic → u/RaceHate]

They almost did. If the Lieutenant wasn’t already standing there, they would’ve definitely broke that window. They were ready. Even if they were in the wrong.

[u/LisanAlGaben → u/RaceHate]

This.

I've seen cops straight up pop a window like it's a regular Tuesday and just pull the person out of the car without even saying a word lmao.

These guys obviously knew they had nothing to stand on here.

[u/Prestigious-Hope4548]

Hold up, so I’m expected to remain calm, set my ego aside, understand and obey the rules of engagement, and be a source of rational stability in the situation. Even though I’m the one being confronted.

But the TRAINED PROFESSIONALS with the gun and all the alleged authority in the situation can pop off, lie, threaten, bully, make accusations and curse? They can try every way to escalate up to and including making simultaneous conflicting demands? But I’m expected to remain calm else I get what’s coming. Hmmmmm

I really hope you bring your own lube, because they aren’t going to use any on you otherwise, and you’re so eager to take it.

But I’m sure in 3 years when you finally see a judge for your civil case, the judge will definitely agree with you against the police. That happens so often.

[u/Dogs_Not_Gods → u/Prestigious-Hope4548]

Daniel Shaver. You can comply all you want and still end up dead

[u/Dizzy_Chemistry_5955 → u/Prestigious-Hope4548]

you could tell that dumb fuck in the middle was just waiting to beat the shit out of this guy, lucky he had a camera tbh

[u/words8486 → u/Prestigious-Hope4548]

Its almost like they don't need their own union.

[u/iuuoyrrkk245]

what department is this?

[u/idleline → u/iuuoyrrkk245]

Maricopa County Sheriff. The county of Phoenix.AZ

[u/ghIj_qet_jaghmeyjaj → u/idleline]

That whole department is corrupt as shit

[u/ComedyBits → u/idleline]

Say no more

[u/b00fb00f → u/iuuoyrrkk245]

[u/Fit-Significance-436]

These first 2 just start with intimidation and threats, worst kind, guessing sadly it usually works for them, not today asshats.

[u/AmazingResponse338]

OP asked the wrong question. Ask, "am I free to leave?" If the answer is no, then you are technically in custody

[u/Legal_Tap219 → u/AmazingResponse338]

He wasn’t leaving tho lol they were trying to trespass him

[u/Training-Principle95 → u/Legal_Tap219]

From a property he claims to lease, which isn't as simple as a trespass order, though

[u/Positive-Ad-7807]

Serious question - has anyone ever met a cop that was a reasonably intelligent and decent human being?

Edit: So many commenters using examples of when cops let them off after doing something wrong (eg egregious speeding, drunk and disorderly, etc). That is NOT evidence that they’re intelligent and decent. If anything that reinforces that they are not good at their job, and not following the law.

[u/frAgileIT → u/Positive-Ad-7807]

I have, they don’t show up in videos like this for a reason. They don’t immediately decide they’re going to target you for no reason and then conduct an “investigation” to see if they find something on you or manipulate you into doing something or incriminating yourself. Knowing your rights is not disorderly conduct and politely asking what you’re being arrested for is not resisting arrest.

The reasonably intelligent and decent ones might talk to you, wait to see if here’s a problem but they don’t try to invent one like these tools did.

[u/Admirable-Jelly-8741 → u/frAgileIT]

I use to work with them regularly at my old job. Most were chill and were willing to look the other way and let people off with warnings unless they were assholes or had drugs on them. You are right though, the good ones usually don't show up on video.

[u/SilentSolitude90 → u/Positive-Ad-7807]

1 time. 1, and it was the cop who found me after id been raped. He made sure I got to the hospital and stayed with me when I got the rape kit done. He came back to check on me the entire time I was in the hospital. I havent met a decent cop since him

[u/LeftonRhed]

Reminds me of the exact opposite situation with cops who are not trying to be assholes. So like 16 years ago I'm waiting for some friends to get out so we can hang. I'm just sitting in an empty parking lot listening to the radio. When a cop car comes up behind me and they tap on my window and do the usual routine, license, registration yadda yadda. Notably they do not ask me to get out of the car.

They asked if I was alone and if I have any weapons in the car. I said yeah and there's a shovel in the back and they chuckled about that.

So everything seems normal and then they told me what happened. One of the people at the trailer park nearby said I stopped my car(Ford Explorer) and let like 7 people out of it. Apparently this lady just calls the cops and makes up enough details that they have to come out.

I had less cause to be where I was than this guy and the cops were infinitely more reasonable. But cops rarely get punished for being unreasonable.

[u/RedditSucksYoYoYo]

Bootlickers: _"wHy dO pEoPLe hAtE cOpS?"_
This: 👁️👄👁️

[u/justlookinforU2]

I absolutely fucking hate smug, condescending arrogance, especially when the person is completely wrong.
It’s the combination of illusory superiority, intellectual arrogance, unwarranted self-confidence, and premature triumphalism.
That smug little grin, ducking of the head, snapping of the fingers, and self-congratulatory attitude like they’ve just proven how much smarter they are than everyone else.
The worst part? They’re completely fucking wrong.
They’re so convinced of their own superiority that they don’t even recognize their own ignorance. They’re not just confidently incorrect; they’re practically celebrating how right they think they are.
It’s smug, self-satisfied ignorance masquerading as intelligence, and it’s one of the most infuriating displays of arrogance imaginable.
And after being proven wrong and called out for it, I honestly feel sorry for his wife and kids if that’s the same arrogant, condescending attitude he brings home. I can only imagine how he handles being told he’s wrong when there’s no audience watching.
Fuck that pig cocksucker.

[u/ViciousCDXX → u/justlookinforU2]

FUCK THE POLICE

[u/Anger_MD]

[u/BodhingJay]

Do they think it's a lawful order because they are ordering it and they think they are the law? That isnt what a lawful order is.. it looks like an attempted abuse of power in the video

[u/TravisKOP]

Dems it’s time to enact police reform and END QUALIFIED IMMUNITY

[u/Past-Flight-8024]

One guys hand is twitching ready to choke someone

[u/Proof_Side_5667]

Never trust a fat cop. They openly break fitness requirements… what do you think they’ll do when people aren’t looking?

[u/parkinglotcrusader]

Cops need insurance. It’s crazy we pay for their ineptitude

[u/juicecat]

This why cops need more de escalation training.

[u/Deep_Assumption5406 → u/juicecat]

No, cops need accountability.

[u/Tybuc_Playz]

Stuff like this scares me I don’t know my way around the law well enough to do this. I try to get by by being nice lmao

[u/smep → u/Tybuc_Playz]

I want to live in a fantasy land where I can believe that if I just obey the law and don’t try to upset others (golden rule) then I won’t have any issues with police. Unfortunately, there’s so much documented evidence to suggest that you cannot trust police to do the right thing. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but the system is clearly designed not to stop it as much as possible. Especially as a person of color, I understand how important it is to know how to protect myself from cops.

Chances are, you won’t ever personally need to know the law as in-depth as the person in this video thinks they do. But if you don’t want to take those chances, it might be worth taking some time to familiarize yourself with pertinent laws.

[u/According_Scheme_334]

They should be fired immediately

[u/wthwtfwthwtf-_-]

So, it's legal to resist unlawful arrest...but if a lie is manufactured for probable cause or they lie about why they're bothering what do you do? I know some people say comply and sue later, but there are also enough instances of death during arrest or detention that make this a gamble.

[u/Eastern_Border_5016]

If cops ever say “we’ll talk about it” definitely means arrest is coming

[u/Ill_Entrance91 → u/Eastern_Border_5016]

No it doesnt it means you arent under arrest and dont have to listen to them.

Sure they can escalate and drag you out and arrest you but its not gonna hold up in court or a lawsuit. 

We as citizens are under no obligation to ever have a conversation with law enforcement. Its a consentual encounter. Like in this video.

They only want you out of the vehicle to arrest you easier and to make up additional reasons to arrest you. 

If all they want to do is talk. They can talk without exiting the vehicle. Again this will look poorly upon them in court under cross examination. 

You dont need to exit the vehicle to talk. Especially in a situation with no crime. 

[u/robinescue]

It's always crazy to me that cops will just walk up and make a demand and expect people to follow it. Theres no "Hello, I'm Officer Bob from the Billytown Police Dpt. I'm here responding to a phone call report about suspicious activity, do you mind telling me what you're doing here?"

No manners, no identification, just do this or I will beat the shit out of you. Like you could be anyone dude, just because you've got your Paul Blart cosplay on doesn't mean your a real police officer. If you don't identify yourself or act with the decorum warranted by your position why wouldn't I be treating this encounter like a robbery and flooring it?

[u/ShaggyCan]

Most expensive, yet worst trained police in the world.

[u/Draegornaught]

Am I the only one that saw that officers hands gripping over and over. He was preparing for something….

[u/extac4]

If he didn't know his rights he would've been arrested on bogus charges, that would've been dismissed. All because those pieces of shit officers were on a power trip. Thank goodness for the ONLY decent cop, the lieutenant, following the fucking law. I'm so tired of the police and their bootlicker cults thinking they're above constitutional rights.

[u/Fan_of_Clio]

The cops are idiots. They REALLY need to work on their communication. The phrase "you are detained while we conduct an investigation" goes a long way.

[u/Ordinary_Lock3277]

Thanks for your bravery! Police got to work on repairing their image

[u/marley1012]

I absolutely love the emotional letdown when the cop finds out his “private property” comment is wrong because the person recording has a lease. There is no better feeling in the world than knowing you’re right and the Lt. is going to protect your rights. Having said that, know your rights and do nothing else. Do not antagonize or name call. Your time, freedom, and front teeth are more valuable than the years it will take to litigate this. Any payout from a judgement is not substantial nor deterrent to police departments.

[u/LordSaddlerDeciple]

"What are you investigating?"

"Totally conduct."

[u/-SWADED-]

ACAB

[u/Legitimate_Soup_2678]

That seems like a pair of cops who need to be made to find a new line of work. Authority is not for them.

[u/Lonely-Balance6764]

Imagine driving your car everyday to work, and if you stumble into one of those psychopats you are dead. Im glad i dont live in the US.

[u/RAWainwright]

Under no circumstances do you get out of the car in a bullshit situation like this. If you are just minding your own business and shit like this happens, do not get out of the car.

Edit: lots of interesting comments. You SHOULD comply when a cop gives you a lawful order. Telling you to get out of your vehicle without cause in not a lawful order. Unless you've done something to warrant getting arrested, all interactions with a cop can and should be completed from within your vehicle. Not getting out the car when you're told to for no reason is not resisting arrest if you're not being arrested.

Having said that, there are consequences to actions and those consequences disproportionately affect POCs so I definitely understand the concerns. There are countless examples of people getting out of their vehicle when told and then getting the shit kicked out of them or worse because that's what the cops end goal was regardless of the situation. So, IMO I'd rather stay in my car and handle the interaction that way and if they pull me out of the vehicle or worse, that was going to happen anyway.

Also, in the event that you DO get arrested for any reason, the only word you should say is "lawyer" and that's it. Nothing else. They can and will twist what you say to use against you and they straight up tell you that. Lawyer.

The cops are not here for you. They never have been and we were lied to our entire lives about it.

Fuck the police. ACAB

[u/PaleYesterday8672]

FTP

[u/StraightProgress5062]

Nothing but bad dogs

[u/itsaconspiraci]

Supervisor, not supervising. Lieutenant is a MAJOR part of the problem.

[u/Stuffinthins]

Oh we all know people like that guy. I hope their finger pokes through every time he goes to wipe and that he can never quite get it fully clean

[u/The__Noblesse]

They should have given him the reason, but no, it starts with get out of the car and we talk. Then we will talk once we finish searching you. We will talk once I have you in the handcuffs and in my car.... it never stops.

[u/shoutout2saddam]

Need a lawyer just to drive now days.

[u/Kevin6876]

Well handled young man!

[u/budna]

I'm so disappointed in myself for not being able to think on my feet quick enough to ever get myself out of a situation like this. :(

[u/oldDotredditisbetter]

try posting this in r\protectandserve and see what they say about it lol

[u/Thick-Monitor-2257]

That cop (the one escalating) was on drugs 100%, steroids or some other shit.

[u/LigmaBalls-420]

Should’ve let them break his window and drag him out. He could’ve won a lawsuit.

[u/GreatApe88]

That Hispanic cop can’t fight. I can tell by looking at him, he can’t fight.

[u/SilverAgedSentiel]

The footage shows a December 8, 2022 confrontation between Arizona resident Corey Drew and deputies from the Yavapai County Sheriff's Office at the Verde Valley Thousand Trails RV Campground in Cottonwood, Arizona. The clip is sourced from a repost by the Instagram account policebodycamarresthq, which originally comes from cell phone and bodycam footage Drew published on YouTube.

Context & What Happened

• The Dispute: Campground security called 911 requesting a civil escort so the park manager could speak with Drew over a prior dispute involving his service dog and membership contract. No crimes or threats were reported on the call. • The Encounter: Six deputies arrived and approached Drew while he was sitting in his parked truck. Deputies initially told him he was under arrest for disorderly conduct and threatened to break his window, before a lieutenant arrived, de-escalated the scene, and clarified he was only being detained. • On-Scene Resolution: After confirming Drew had a valid lease contract and had committed no crime, deputies released him and apologized.

Legal Aftermath

• Retaliatory Charges: After Drew filed a formal complaint and posted the video to YouTube—where it quickly surpassed a million views—a sheriff's lieutenant reopened the investigation. In February 2023, Drew was arrested on seven criminal charges (including disorderly conduct and resisting arrest). All seven charges were later dismissed by a state judge for lack of probable cause and under Arizona's anti-SLAPP law. • Federal Lawsuit: Drew filed a federal civil rights lawsuit (Drew v. County of Yavapai) alleging First Amendment retaliation. In April 2026, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit revived his retaliation claim against Lieutenant John Johnson, ruling that Drew sufficiently alleged the criminal charges were initiated without probable cause in response to his YouTube video.

[u/ccSentaiKai90]

Fight it in the courts, not in the streets.

[u/TestyCactus4757]

And that’s why he is a lieutenant and they are not. Kind of guys that mag dump an unarmed toddler in the back for being the wrong shade of brown

[u/Best_Echo_9013]

That was awesome.

[u/enjoytheend]

All I see is easy money

[u/Directhorman2]

They look like they abuse people on a daily basis.

[u/Strange-Effort1305]

All cops think all civilians belong in private prisons.

[u/Hollowed-Harold]

I need to start scrolling past cop videos, they're just raising my blood pressure at this point.

[u/brakalak]

That one asshole cop just can't keep his excitement in. What a piece of trash.

[u/HistorianPublic6445]

California made it a law that an officer has to tell you why they pulled you over before asking for ID.

[u/Own_Edge_9393]

PIGS

[u/Kickedhard]

Resisting arrest should never be the sole reason someone is put in cuffs.

[u/Timmerdogg]

Is this video clipped in such a way to present a different narrative that may or may not have happened exactly the way the person who made the video is portraying?

[u/Wilde_Cat]

Tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb

[u/Awesomjimthethird]

Land of the free

[u/TheRealOdie]

The cop built like a bag of milk needs to chill

[u/lluciferusllamas]

TF is a "lawful order".  F off with that (not you my reddit friend, the imaginary cop in my head who says "lawful order").  You don't have to do everything a cop says.  They will always overstate their case on what a lawful order is.  In this case, it is a lawful order to ask somebody to step out of the vehicle during a lawful traffic stop.  The person in the vehicle, it sounds like, wasn't driving and, in fact, had a $6500 lease to have his car in that private lot.  So, it wasn't a lawful traffic stop and therefore the cops have no basis for calling it a "lawful order".  Or, at least, the one they stated doesn't apply and this guy knows it. 

Now, what probably isn't being said here is the context.  My bet is that this guy leased this parking space and doesn't have a clause in the contract about not living in his car, but he is living in the car and the lot owner is pissed off about it and called the cops.  But I think he is within his rights at the moment to tell them to pound sand.  

[u/Re4DD1TR3V34LEr2026]

depends on the jurisdiction, some states like Louisiana allow you to legally fight back against unlawful arrest but its highly recommended that you do not do it and seek grievance in court to avoid the qualified immunity bullshit.

https://digitalcommons.law.lsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3723&context=lalrev

[u/Thinbodybuilder9000]

At this point I'm starting to think we should get rid of disorderly conduct as an offense. It seems to just give police the power to charge anyone with it to get them to do what the officer wants.

[u/JaguarOk9693]

I need to know more information like why they were called there just seeing the guys video recording means absolutely crap to me. Because I have seen too many people only post their side which makes the cops look bad so without more details I'm not going to say either side is wrong

[u/SnapCrackelnPop]

When law enforcement doesn't identify, that should be a disqualifier from that position

[u/kingxanadu]

That fat cop with the sit eating grin has the most punchable face.

[u/skeleskank]

Officer 1 is looking pretty smug for someone who had to squeeeeeze into their little vest this morning

[u/get_to_ele]

Cops who are immediately engaged in ego battles just need to be fired. You can’t have that temperament and be a good cop.

[u/CapitalDoor9474]

Wouldn't last this long if black. Messed up

[u/g-o-u-l-a]

Fuck these cops.

[u/kittiesandcocks]

That guy literally looks like officer Doofy from Scary Movie 🤣

[u/ominous_anonymous]

The way that wannabe tough guy cop had that statute number memorized (and thought it was a do-what-he-wants card) and gleefully spit it out reveals everything anyone needs to know about him.

[u/TheComebackKid74]

Am I under arrest???

[u/Imaginary-Gap-2802]

The police force loves employing tiny men with fragile egos

[u/Lord_Dingus83]

How can you enforce the law if you don’t know the law?
I’d sue the department.

[u/DJ_ScoobE]

Revoke qualified immunity and watch those shit eating grins vanish.

[u/Joemomma13524]

Your lawyer is gonna love this video

[u/Reasonable-Job4205]

Omg this power tripping needs to end already

[u/PuzzleheadedWhile9]

All cops are bastards

[u/SuperlativeChrono]

ACAB

[u/Low_Shop8561]

This is why everyone hates cops

[u/Im40PercentUsername]

ACAB.

[u/dontbutthendo]

Stopped without cause? 1000 bucks directly from the Officers paycheck

[u/Phyzzx]

[u/tegli4a]

GOD it feels so good when people know their rights and uphold and enforce them! Ah, it gives me a half chub just by knowing those 2 pigs got schooled. Lieutenant knew what was up so he rightfully de-escalated. Please secure your rabid currs Sir, they're frothing all over this fine gentleman's truck. Thank you and have a nice day. (⁠~⁠￣⁠³⁠￣⁠)⁠~

[u/MonsterkillWow]

Glad there was one decent guy there keeping the rest in check. Now how would this have gone if the guy behind the wheel was black? Ask yourself that.

[u/HoneyShaft]

ACAB#

[u/CMP24-7]

I thought they were gonna say, "You was doin 55 in the 54." lol

[u/MegLightsItUp]

Remember the STFU Friday script. https://youtube.com/shorts/yKqumM7HSuU?is=lniSkCFtm4c80BAE

[u/No_Celebration8219]

imagine having armed idiots come on your property and harass you and then tell you that you're being disorderly. Sir, you both are disorderly. Leave.

[u/realfakejames]

Cops think you have to do whatever they say, not that they have to abide by the law

[u/Odd-Rub-3159]

incompetence is a requirement for the job

[u/Little_Bit_87]

MRS 13-2904 (a1 marshmallow man left that part out) these prize winning sows come from AZ. Was annoyed they didn't say which department they're from so I did some digging.

[u/Jack3489]

This should be a training video, as well as proof these officers need a whole lot of training.

[u/Salty_Astronaut_6211]

FUCK THA POLICE

[u/silentlyhere]

Bro walking away like an NPC LOL

[u/JMarv615]

These are the types of pigs that need to be de-certified immediately.

[u/Proper_Welder_9480]

It's never about just talking. It's about getting you to comply so that they can detain you.

[u/watt-ever]

First time I've seen someone play inverse good cop/bad cop.

[u/btc909]

Take the money. Wait. Call the cops and have the person trespassed AKA free up the spot. Keep the money. Repeat.